Teachers in Fl can lose their license...

Do you also believe in the stork?

 

I mean look at this crap. Clearly this is a person who sits around and soaks in mindless crap like Fox News all day long. Just a bunch of dog whistles and tropes. Nothing ever of any substance. Ever.


Orange_and_Bluke, post:

“You’re really diving in here I see.
I guess it seems that cons like me don’t mind a governor who thinks like we do. We don’t want more liberalism, it’s seemingly everywhere these days….and we like traditional values. There is nothing wrong with traditional, and it’s not hateful to be proud of my culture.
Libbies don’t seem to give two shits about the extreme unbalanced media, academia and Hollywood libbie bias. Maybe it’s the same reason I’m not concerned at all for any teacher who may or may not be punished for espousing libbie points in front of students.”

 

Indeed, I think if we start from the assumption that liberalism = wrong, silencing of liberal views is potentially justified. But note that in none of my critiques have I criticized conservatism or even the law in question. My whole critique was predicated on authority. It seems entirely inconsistent with the rule of law to endorse a political action only when it is executed by one’s preferred party. This action can only be justified on grounds that this is the proper role of central government and not on whether the idea is “good”. As you nicely said above, one person’s hate is another’s common sense.

I follow FA Hayek here, who noted that liberty requires that we don’t elevate our own beliefs to truth: “All political theories assume of course that most individuals are very ignorant. Those who plead for liberty differ from the rest in that they include among the ignorant themselves as well as the wisest.”

 

There's some indoctrinating going on here, but it's not by the teachers.

 

He's also admitting that he doesn't care about free speech. As I said, there appears to be a lot of consistency among "conservatives" in that belief---we should only protect speech "conservatives" like.

 

Yeah people who call themselves conservatives these days have really abandoned their “constitewshun” cards. Oversight of speech, public and private. Government regulation of private sector enterprises political speech. They won’t be happy until we have a Russian/Iranian failed state model.

Traditional values my ass. Traditional values = women subservience, Jim Crow, slavery, anti gay legislation, religious oversight of government, coat hanger abortions, etc. As far as I’m concerned they can shove their traditional values straight up their asses.

 

At the very least its evidence that public school indoctrination to make everyone good liberals is incredibly ineffective

 

I’m not worried if that’s all that was said. Well done, good example imo.

 

Liz Cheney was not removed for believing the election was legitimate. That is a fundamental misunderstanding as to why she was removed.

She was removed because she found herself spending more time harping on Republican flaws than Democratic flaws. She was harsher on Republicans than Democrats broadly speaking. Thats bad for the party and that’s why she was basically removed.

 

I imagine it depends on where they live. If their public school is primarily the same demographic, many more will opt for that than if the school is much more mixed.
A lot of parents, I think, want their kids to go to school with other kids like themselves.

 

You must not watch much news (non-'cabal' News). You are purposefully being ignorant by ignoring what is going on in school.

 

Yes, The Second Amendment is a Constitutional Right that should be protected, and yes, you should have a clean record to buy a gun at a gun show.

But school is for state approved curriculum.

 

We already have the internet recording every single keystroke we type... and cameras looking down on the streets/sidewalks... satellites looking down from space. Twitter... Facebook, all their stuff iS for the government to spy on you and me.

Speaking of Twitter, Biden wants to poo-poo the Musk deal because of, get this, national security concerns. Yes, the govnenment uses IT to spy on us all.

So, "pervasive government surveillance" has been here for quite some time now.

 

Interesting info about what you do.
Do you honestly think teachers would speak freely about partanship in front of you?

 

If you want to make the claim on the merits of a First Amendment violation, by all means make it. I think there’s a reasonable case to be made.

But spare me the grandstanding.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/bid...vents-first-amendment-bullying-private-actors

 

Put three kids through preK-12th grade, never had one experience with a teacher trying to "indoctrinate" any of my children.

 

I'm guessing poster has no idea that Fl. has had "state approved curriculum" for many decades. How embarrassing.

 

Im not sure there is as strict a boundary between disagreeing with the party and criticizing it, as you are suggesting. If a democratic congressperson said, “We need to stop focusing so much on Woke ideologies”, would they be disagreeing or harping on flaws? And how would the party treat them? I think I can guess.

When I research Cheney’s criticisms, I only see them directed toward Trump. Does Trump = Republican Party?

“The remarkable and fast-moving campaign to dump Cheney, Congress’ highest-ranking Republican woman, and replace her with a Trump loyalist was orchestrated by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and his top deputies. The California Republican and his allies complained that Cheney’s constant readiness to call out Trump’s lies about the 2020 election was a distraction that prevented the party from unifying around a cohesive message to win back the House next year.”

Cheney booted from Republican leadership spot

 

A federal judge already found that it violates the First and Fourteenth Amendments in the employer context. He will find in the next few weeks that it violates the First and Fourteenth Amendments in the education context. Hell, DeSantis's lawyers admitted that it's a viewpoint-discriminatory law.

The case has already been made. Your impotent deflection certainly doesn't change that.

 

Jesus Christ.