Taylor Swift/Ticketmaster controversy

I've bought bowl tickets for the Orlando bowl games as soon as they come out. When they announce the teams I put them on stubhub and make some money. If they don't sell I can always go, but I've never had an issue selling them

What Ticketmaster has done, is say "Hey FGM does it, why don't we?" So I doubt I'll be able to do my bowl game business this year.

 

A friend of mine just took his wife, her son and a rich minor celebrities son to see Elton John at dodger stadium. 4 decent tickets were almost 2 K.

 

interesting read.

4 good tickets, bought for $1700 and sold for $4500+ (only declares $2900 profit) on resale market. insane, the amount of experiences and fun I could have for $1100 + dwarfs the fun I would get from seeing any concert.

5 cheap tickets, bought for $322, sold for $1777

How I did on those Taylor Swift Eras tickets - Miles per Day

I helped my son buy 4 tickets to Tampa yesterday. After 1 hour I was ready to give up but on one last refresh I got them at $1692 total. He just sold them for $2,900 profit, lol. I also got 2 floor tickets that weren’t resold yet.

 

Going to see the Last Waltz tonight for $15!

 

Your bigger beef is with demand. Ticketmaster sets the price based on the artist and event and what they want. It stinks when people don’t get the ticket they want for under market value. But that is the system the industry as right now.

 

Yeah, but often it's not market value. There are always scalpers desperately dropping their prices the week of shows because they have no takers.

 

Blame Blink 182 and TS for wanting to get paid. They chose dynamic pricing. The demand dictates the price.

They should be able to make money if people are willing to pay it.

 

Agreed/Disagreed. The more I read this has to do with dynamic pricing. It is likely the best way for the artist to make the most money.

It was the market value the transaction happened. If one had no intent to go and paid way more for the ticket than they were able to off load it for. They will be out of that business real quick…

 

We don’t agree often, but you nailed this one!

 

Where are you taking the boys when the girls are at the show?

 

Never thought I'd say this but I'd actually like to see her live. Since she started collaborating with people like Boy Iver and Bryce and Aaron Dressner from the National, she's broken free of the Nashville mentality and started recording compelling, very grown up music. A lot of it. Few artists were more prolific during the pandemic. That said, I'd never pay more much more than $100 for a concert. I don't need to see her to enjoy her music.

 

Forgot to say TICKET MASTER SUCKS!

 

For all of my daughters struggles and faults I will say she isn’t part of the Taylor Swift hysteria, not that I have anything against TS. I was almost in tears when I noticed my daughter sleeping with Pink Floyd Animals (Dogs) playing in the background.

 

Because the classic response from some is it’s not fair.
Ha ha. So predictable.

 

Make tickets non transferable? Maybe that helps.

 

Yep, if you can’t go turn them into the venue. Get your money back minus a handling charge.

 

I had a lengthy conversation about this with a friend who has been in the music biz for a very long time.

His position is “everyone is in on it including the artists”. LiveNation buying Ticketmaster sealed that. Artists make zero money from music sales. Only revenue stream is live music. Why allow the guys on the street benefit and not Ticketmaster/LiveNation and the artists? Margins are razor thin for LiveNation after the bills are paid. Notice there is no absolute outrage over this from the artists? Hush money.

After COVID, LiveNation owes hundreds of millions of dollars to the Saudis. They have to make it up somehow

Somebody messed up and there is somebody who knows all the secrets. Lots of money at play here

 

I have nothing against Taylor Swift, I’m just curious about the hysteria, as you aptly call it. I don’t listen to radio, don’t follow pop music, and quit listening to country years ago when it quit being country. (I seem to recall that TS was originally “country,” but I could be wrong.) IOW I have never heard a TS song (as far as I know) nor seen her perform (except for short clips as in the TV commercials for whatever she’s selling that day). So I have to ask anyone who can tell me, what is it about her? Is it her looks (she doesn’t strike me as a classic beauty, I mean she’s not Hedy Lamarr), something about how she performs (like that overnight sensation named Elvis, gyrating scandalously on stage in the 1950s), or does she simply write and perform the best songs in the history of music?

 

I don’t know either. I’ve only heard her songs a couple of times. They are kind of catchy and not terrible. My guess is unlike most artists she is relatable/ normal, kind of like Garth Brooks was to pop country. I never listened to GB either.

 

She writes great lyrics, and her music is pretty good.

I was in the same boat of never having, knowingly, heard anything by her on the radio and wondered why she was so popular without any radio air time. Or if she was even really that popular if she wasn't getting any air time. In 2014-ish I heard the tail end of a song and really loved a line- "You can tell me when it's over, If the high was worth the pain". Got home and looked it up, was surprised to find out it was Taylor Swift. The sound and content totally didn't match what I imagined her music to be like. Took a listen to the whole album and was amazed, starting diving into the rest of her catalog. Started making our daughters listen to some of her warning songs about how boys are dumb.

She played a variety of instruments on her earlier albums, with a high enough level of skill that they didn't automatically replace her with studio musicians for the recordings, that's pretty impressive.

And she really is a great lyricist.