Talent alone doesn't explain Florida Football's struggles over the past decade

No idea because it’s not happened. Doesn’t look like it so far but if given the chance we may get to see.

 

He had a great roster when he arrived and did a great job with it. He recruited and coached well but he didn’t build a program from ashes which is what Napier is tasked with.

 

Dude, there is no “But”. Your first sentence is the summit of understatement. The rosters the two coaches inherited were night and day. Qualifying that statement with ‘but this or but that’ dimishes the magnitude of the key point

 

Just note who raised it and you have your answer, IMO.

 

Fair enough
But you sounded kind of ungrateful for th Nattys

 

Just to add to that, Meyer won everywhere that he coached (in college lol).

People hate on Meyer, but he has one of the cleanest W/L resumes in the history of college football. And he did it at Utah, at Florida, and at Ohio State.

 

Not at all, he has just always went to talent. Napier was given the worst team in recent memories here. Just not at all the same scenario.

 

I agree with you.
The looking back into the past, it can be said there were some bad hires.
You can also say bad hires is a source to the lack of stability.
Good hires do not result in the firing of coaches.

 

Ten years ago this would be true.
In today's world of NIL and transfer portal 1/3 of the roster will bolt every year and 2/3's after a coaching change.

Loyalty and culture as Napier wants us to believe in, simply does not exist anymore.

College sports are now a collection of individual athletes. There is no such thing as TEAM anymore. To win big in this new era requires the coach to build a talented roster EVERY year.

FSU baseball proves my point.

 

Bama will keep on rolling if the coach can keep the ship straight. I doubt he could do any like Saban did as buying rosters is allowed for all teams. I read today that Phil Knight will spend unlimited nil to bring a ship to Oregon though. He’s worth 32 nil so he can afford any roster he wants if he is legit willing to pay like he claims he will. I bet the good ol boys figure out a rule to keep that from happening.
Being able to dump a third of your roster will be an advantage.

 

DUH

 

We are hating on Kirby too. At Florida, winning is not everything. I’d still take a few more years of urban winning though. i’d take lap dances and players punching coaches over killing staffers I guess

 

The last several years of bad football is really imo a combination of things. Poor recruiting, poor coaching, poor on field decision making, poor development of players, poor hiring.
Hopefully, this year things get turned around. We have to have a winning season.

 

Or the abdication of their obligation to their players and recruiting. For that I consider our x HC mullen a low character sl--me ball. Never going to forget how his low energy mediocre staff threw the ucf game.

 

I'm not going to try to convince you that bama never paid a player. Boosters and alumni might have. But so was auburn, LSU, georgia, michigan and most of the rest of schools, one way or the other. I bet we did as well.

 

Yes, but Bama, Saban, and Kirby had it refined almost to pure art status. BTW, I wonder if Tua's family still lives in Alabama? I somehow doubt it.

 

IMO, the fatal mistake was when we hired Muschamp. Foley took a team built for the spread, and hired an up and coming dinosaur, someone wanting an antiquated pro style offense to be installed. Muschamp went all in on dis-mantling Urban's spread offense by hiring The Cheeseburger, (who thought highly of himself with his 'schematically advantaged' 50's offense, Cheeseburger was a total failure, as was Muschamp. Our team was built for speed and that move destroyed it.

We never recovered offensively until Mullen came here. Who knew that Mullen's tenure at Florida was all about getting fired and getting the big payout? I didn't think that, but that turned out to be the reality.

We never recovered from Muschamp..

CBN is the first one since Meyer who possibly can get us back to prominence. Fingers crossed that he succeeds.

 

That's pretty interesting. Do you think AD's (no matter what the team) think about what kind of players he has on a team when choosing head coaches to interview? Or it never enters their mind?

 

I would think most AD's think about what kind of offense and defense a coach will run and have that discussion with him.. For Urban's time here, many were saying that the spread wouldn't work in the SEC.. By 2010/11 that was no longer an issue. We were cutting edge for the future. It's obvious to me going back to leather helmets was a major blunder, and our AD should have taken more input before making that kind of move. Just my opinion. TOP was getting phased out, and we embraced it.

 

If we are going to talk about Misschimp's failures, we have to include some reference to his recruiting on offense. I believe he recruited 1.5 OL per cycle. Wasn't it Butters who followed and did not have an OL for his first Spring game then out of desperation signed about 7 otherwise unknown OL? What was he thinking?