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Surgeon general warns about alcohol and cancer

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Jan 3, 2025 at 10:07 AM.

  1. channingcrowderhungry

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    Bottom of a pint glass
    My Portland brewed craft beers also beg to differ.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    I’m not half as afraid of getting cancer as I am being treated for it.
     
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  3. 92gator

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    Lol! Cubans don't get to enjoy Havana Club. Thats only for tourists.

    Russian vodka is cheap crap. Drinks like petro.

    It's all they could afford.
     
  4. 92gator

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    Damn straight.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    Its just regular vodka? Luxury/craft vodka is a capitalist scam. Its supposed to be tasteless and odorless. There isnt much you can do to make it "better." Oh, you used a charcoal filter? It was ethically sourced with natural ingredients? Well in that case, here's another $20.
     
  6. 92gator

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    It takes *capital* and art/craft, to take that cheap petro acid crap, and render it "odor less/tasteless"--ie neutral. And smooth.

    The shit those Ruskies would drink back in the day would peel paint.
     
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  7. mrhansduck

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    Maybe it has been? Not sure if true, but I thought I once heard that everybody who lives long enough will eventually get cancer? Alcohol has been around a long time, but life expectancy was relatively low through much of that history so maybe people weren't getting old enough to get cancer. Or maybe people were getting cancer but we didn't know what it was.

    I personally like to drink alcohol. However, I have no problem believing that it's unhealthy.
     
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  8. wgbgator

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    There isnt much art to making flavorless alcohol lol. Its basically what whiskey is before you put it in an oak barrel to obtain flavor. Shit, my ancestors probably made that in a homemade still, the only skill you needed was not to make it explode or cause blindness.
     
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  9. 92gator

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    Pure ignorance.

    Alcohol comes with serious bite.

    The art that makes alcohol maketable (beyond the mere escape of commie or otherwise impoverished misery), begins with taking the bite out of it.

    Otherwise moonshine would be actually prized, and not just laughable novelty.
     
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  10. wgbgator

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    Yet, you can go to the liquor store and buy craft moonshine. It even comes in flavors!
     
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  11. wgbgator

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    What about excess love and caring?
     
  12. WC53

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    Well I’m dead
     
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  13. okeechobee

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    How do we know it hasn't been?
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    There is a correlation between getting checkups and being told you have cancer.
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    Speaking of TDS
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  16. RealGatorFan

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    The issue here is why I actually mock science today. I've mocked a handful of experts in public for what I call, lazy science. Nearly all studies done today are a sham. They just don't take the time to analyze using proven techniques. Case in point, I'm on the ketogenic diet for over 4.5 years. I feel like I'm in my 20s now (except for the 60 year old back). Yet, the one study every single doctor uses to point to keto as a bad diet is the worst study ever done by mankind. It's embarrassing they even try to use it. This study handed out questionnaires to the participants asking them what they ate 3 years ago in the month of January. All of the questions were multiple choice with questions like, "How many cups of meat did you eat?" with 4 values to choose from. So the entire study was nothing more than herding the participants to the choices they want them to choose. 1, 2, 4, 5+. Most chose 5+ but then again who measure their steak by cups? So after getting all the data, they looked at various markers and drew a conclusion. This is the issue with all studies being done in the world today - they are observational. Not a single study done in this century ever proves causation. They can't because the studies themselves are rigged.

    You need a double blind placebo study with thousands of participants, giving them an approved keto diet (the placebo group eats normal) and then taking before and after advanced lipid profiles including a calcium score and even a scan of the arterial walls for soft plaque. These studies take time and money which no one today wants to do so they cheap out. There was another study I ridiculed the team for one of the most laughable studies on very high fat, very low carb diets. That study lumped pretty much the same questionnaire into 3 groups: VHFLC <= 47%, middle 48-64, VLFHC 65+. I told them in a paper back to them where in the world do they think very low carb is 47% carbs from calories? How about cut that down by 75% and you have a better picture. Of course their study concluded that the 47% had the most issues, again all observational. My carb macros are roughly 5% of caloric intake per day. 70 to 85% of my calories comes from fat with the remainder protein. 47% to us is very high carb.
     
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  17. wgbgator

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  19. duggers_dad

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    There is probably more dogma in the field of nutrition than in organized religion.
     
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  20. 92gator

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    Lol! See....by definition, that's not actually moonshine. It's regulated. That’s how its permitted to be on store shelves. Moonshine just isnt.
     
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