Supreme Court rules for coach whose prayers on football field raised questions about church-state se

And snakes. Can’t forget the snakes.

 

Same reason Tebow did. The scriptures tell us to give thanks in "everything" even life's defeats

 

Clearly the scriptures were referring high school football. I believe that’s John Madden 3:14, right?

 

Sometimes the answer is "No."

 

I think the issue is he is a state employee and led a group in prayer, and it became a recurring, standard event. There were students that claimed they felt pressured to participate. Vs say a impromptu prayer on the field.

Gorsuch, In his majority opinion, even mentioned this as a issue, but claimed it wasn’t.

“were not publicly broadcast or recited to a captive audience. Students were not required or expected to participate.”

again there were parents that proclaimed their kids did feel pressured to join.

 

This is an image of a person praying quietly.



This is a paid government employee in a position of leadership praying to a group in sport where cohesion and unity are emphasized.

 

So I guess when the Gators prayed at midfield before and/or after some games, that was a violation of church and state...

...and every time Danny Wuerffel clasped his hands to thank the Lord above...

...and every time Tim Tebow took a knee to do the same...

They both should have been kicked off the team.

Is that what y'all think, ye godless heathen militant athiest neo-progs???

Good [NOTHING NOWHERE] have mercy on them...

 

The issue is the stigma if they don’t participate in the Govt sanctioned prayer.
It should never come to that. Separation of Church and state protects all on many levels.
The evangelical push into politicization was certainly towards the goal of a religious vs “immoral” court. Now the God loves guns thing is beyond me, and I like guns.

 

Bad guess.

 

Wow, students chose to join in, despite giving the option not to join in. How terrible. Prayer can't be popular in public schools.

As for the rest of your post, you screaming that I said "discount the evidence" doesn't mean that's what I said. This a classic case that reminds me why I shouldn't take your claims of fascism seriously. You will frame everything you support, even if it violates individual rights, as individual rights, and you will frame every government action you oppose as fascism, all while being one of the biggest endorsers of actual fascism on this board.

 

So... Tebow?

 

Yes. The distinction is one being individual choice vs being forced or pressured to in a public school.

It's an easy distinction that even you should be able to grasp.

 

Oh come on, there isn’t really an option without ostracizing of said juveniles

 

In reality what the coach did was okay, but it goes against the gospel and Christian doctrine.
Matthew 6
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"Be careful not to do your `acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2
"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
3
But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,
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so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
5
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
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But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

 

As usual you're lying.

 

Ok, so what sliver distinction do you point to that says nah, Tebow and Wuerffel were ok praying publicly like they did, as players for a public school, or the team and coach (Spurrier that is) joining and sometimes leading in prayer....but not this coach.

 

"Prayer in public schools are okay, as long as there isn't near uniformity in the amount of people choosing to participate."

 

If he refused the Circle of Trust??? Of course. I mean that would be the most shocking display of all time.

 

If your holding a rainbow themed parade down main street its for the attention and the spectacle. Might as well borrow a tent from the nearest fundamental revival preacher.

In other words, Of course it is to help bring attention to something they deem worthy. Is that a problem?

 

"God seems to be smiling on the Gators!"

--Steve Spurrier

"FIRE HIS ASS!!! HE'S VIOLATING CHURCH N STATE!!!!"

--MODERN DAY NEO-PROG