Supreme Court rules for coach whose prayers on football field raised questions about church-state se

Well, hypothetically the libs would have lost their shit if a muslim was fired under the same circumstances.

 

Pretty sure I already answered the Muslim coach question.

Again, As long as he isn't discriminating based on it, he has every right to pray at midfield. If my kid gets benched, then that is a different story.

My faith is at odds with the Muslim religion, but the constitution is for all.

People are ignoring a simple truth here.
Coaches have to win to keep their job. They arent benching the talented guys and playing less talented guys based on a voluntary post game prayer. If they are than the system will replace them based on losses anyway. Tebow and Wuerffel didnt only throw the ball to guys like them.

Hernandez was trouble, Rainey threatened to kill his girlfriend, Percy was a pothead.

Tim's public faith didnt threaten those guys. Danny's public faith didnt threaten similar guys. They had the ball in their hands and could have chose to only throw it to people like him, but we know that doesnt happen.

Dabo is an outspoken man of faith, but he didn't bench DeShaun.

Its a pure hypothetical to assume he would punish kids who didnt pray.

 

He was, but more so AFTER his rights were impeded. Again, people support noisy protests on this board all the time, but God forbid this guy do it because its not a subject some want to support.

This guy prayed for 5 minutes once a week and he is a villian, bit give other groups a whole month and they are heros.

The fact that some of this is lost on some here is mind boggling.

 

Why do you think the libs are for Muslim prayers in schools?

 

Nuts.

 

You would be wrong. Had you read the thread you would know that. In fact had you read previous threads you would know that. I believe in religious freedom. Period. End of story. As long as it does not discriminate or cause physical harm, It is protected by the constitution.

 

As a pusher of faith, I'm not sure you can fully appreciate being on the other side. It's maddening in general and is insulting when in a subordinate position.

I wish y'all would stop. It's unwelcomed to some.

 

Can you imagine the outrage if a public school hired an imam just in case some students wanted pray with him? Maybe he can coach football on the side.

 

Ever have won of them simpul wurds that kick yur butt? Rudikulus has alwys bin wun of myne.

 

Religious coercion is not a constitutional right for state employees.

 

Remember the infidels!

 

Nope.

If the coach was coercing or pressuring his players to Muslim prayer that coach should be fired. The coercion is the issue, not the “free exercise”. Unfortunately if one is in a position of authority in a govt job that line towards coercion is a very fine line to walk, the position of authority is the key. It might come down to a bit of a he said-she said between the coach and those that felt they were discriminated against, what exactly the coach says; etc. It’s almost like as soon as there is a complaint, the public entity is compelled to get out ahead of it. Not too different from the teacher who wants to lead a class in prayer. You just can’t do it on the public dime.

 

Fallacious tripe.

 

I would not have.

 

Soft coercion is a thing. Arm-twisting and guns to the head don't have to be involved. At any rate, the relevant point is the coach is an employee of an institution that doesn't permit public prayer. Why should he be exempt?

 

And yet you are assuming this coach wouldn't treat those who prayed with him favorably.

 

Where do I push my faith?
Unless you consider open public conversation as "pushing".

You are mistaking my support for this guys rights as being my method.

It would not be my method.

 

Correct. We are all assuming. Assumption is not grounds for revocation of ones constitutional rights.

 

Because the blocking of public prayer is unconstitutional. That is the whole point.
Until it is proven that he forced or discriminated based on his religion he has the right to pray publicly.