Submersible Titanic Tourist craft goes missing

Seen 'em. Wish I hadn't.

 

Our Navy heard that?
Maybe the Navy should be in charge of getting spy balloons out of the sky.

 

All of ASW is about listening. Not remotely surprising that we picked up the sound, especially in a regular sub transit area

 

https://www.mediamatters.org/rumble...gate-sub-was-sunk-hide-truth-it-wasnt-iceberg


Stew Peters’ Rothschilds conspiracy theory: OceanGate sub was sunk to hide truth “that it wasn't an iceberg that sank the Titanic”

 

I’ve got to take some issue with the analysis of the submariner. I’m not sure if he’s the one that said the temperature would reach that of the sun, but based on the ideal gas law and my back-of-the-envelope calculations while watching TV, I don’t get anywhere near that hot in that space.

Looking at what he specifically said, air cannot auto ignite. It has nothing to burn to. Air is oxygen and nitrogen. Neither of those is combustible.

Also, unless the passengers ate a boatload of beans beforehand, I do not see how the atmosphere would be rich in hydrocarbons. Even with that, you have to reach a concentration of several percent before reaching the lower explosion limit of a hydrocarbon gas.

If someone can produce calculations and data to show the rise in temperature required for burning the bodies, I will gladly change my opinion. Until then, I’ll stick with catastrophic implosion, and the bodies merely disintegrated.

 

Jewish space lasers!

 

Measure-countermeasure. Very true. I remember once a Marine Corps buddy, to be a smartass and paint me as a history geek, asked me, “When was siege equipment invented?” Without missing a beat, I answered, “Shortly after the wall.”

 

Im no shockwave detonation expert but it’s an adiabatic compression of a gas that causes a rise in temperature of the gas. This occurs when the pressure of a gas is increased by work done on it by its surroundings. It’s why I see a barrel flash when I shoot my pellet gun. A no “fuel” combustion, yet I see a flash if you could call it that. It’s hard to imagine what water pressure at that depth feels like compared to our normal 14.6psi. If you know the depth, the pressure P is proportional to the density of fluid x acceleration due to gravity constant x the depth. The oxygen in the micro environment, including their veins, is subjected to extreme pressures and compresses. That’s quite an energy transfer in such a short time. This is why they have safety measures when connecting oxygen cylinders to freestanding regulators or high pressure slings in Gas Distribution Systems. A flash occurs. I wish I knew more about it myself from an empirical standpoint!

 

The Convergence of the Twain
BY THOMAS HARDY


(Lines on the loss of the "Titanic")


I
In a solitude of the sea
Deep from human vanity,
And the Pride of Life that planned her, stilly couches she.

II
Steel chambers, late the pyres
Of her salamandrine fires,
Cold currents thrid, and turn to rhythmic tidal lyres.

III
Over the mirrors meant
To glass the opulent
The sea-worm crawls — grotesque, slimed, dumb, indifferent.

IV
Jewels in joy designed
To ravish the sensuous mind
Lie lightless, all their sparkles bleared and black and blind.

V
Dim moon-eyed fishes near
Gaze at the gilded gear
And query: "What does this vaingloriousness down here?" ...

VI
Well: while was fashioning
This creature of cleaving wing,
The Immanent Will that stirs and urges everything

VII
Prepared a sinister mate
For her — so gaily great —
A Shape of Ice, for the time far and dissociate.

VIII
And as the smart ship grew
In stature, grace, and hue,
In shadowy silent distance grew the Iceberg too.

IX
Alien they seemed to be;
No mortal eye could see
The intimate welding of their later history,

X
Or sign that they were bent
By paths coincident
On being anon twin halves of one august event,

XI
Till the Spinner of the Years
Said "Now!" And each one hears,
And consummation comes, and jars two hemispheres.

 

OT: Another trip that went bad, but with a much happier ending. The actual, screen used S.S. Minnow from 1964. It has a gorgeous cabin.
(Btw: definitely Mary Ann)

 

Take the phenomenon of spontaneous human combustion and put it in that crucible of oxygen, pressure, and heat, even for a nanosecond, and strange things can happen.

 

Would you see that flash if the pellet gun was submerged in 39 degree salt water?

 

I asked Chatgpt about this as a hypothetical and it said there would not be any explosion but that the bodies would likely be very badly altered from the implosion and would not ever make it to the surface.

 

Yea.. although its hard to draw the line… Hikers get lost, ice fishermen get stranded, drivers in snowstorms get stuck. Lots of gray area between honest mistake, bad luck, careless, and too risky.

 

If there's one thing that rich folks paying for deep-sea dives or rides into space should keep in mind, it's this: You can't take it with you when you go.

 

I agree there is some gray area. But if there is a line, taking a submersible to the titanic is most assuredly on the other side of that line. Perhaps certain depths & altitudes could be established as what is “beyond reasonable” for any sort of tax funded rescue. Same for leaving earth’s atmosphere.

 

I had a minor equipment malfunction during my one and and only skydiving jump. Back when I did it you're first five jumps were static line jumps, you were not tethered to a jumpmaster. A 30 foot strap was connected to the aircraft and your container. You climbed out with one foot onto the single step, your other foot was just dangling and you grabbed the wing's strut with both hands. This was at 2500'. At the jumpmaster's command, you let go of the strut and fell back. As you fell, the strap would automatically deploy your parachute. Count to 3, look up and check your chute. If a line looped over your parachute you had a Mae West...bad, prepare to act. If your parachute looked like a used condom you had a streamer...really bad, act very quickly. We had emergency parachutes to deploy ourselves if needed. Thankfully, I was good. There was a radio attached to the reserve chute and a guy on the ground was supposed to tell you to pull on the right or left toggle to steer to the landing area. My radio malfunctioned immediately and I didn't wear my lenses that day as I wasn't driving. The guy on the ground would also position himself in a circle to tell you how to steer as a back-up to the radio, but I couldn't see him. I got caught up in the truly amazing feeling of just gently floating down and temporarily forgot about the landing area thing. By the time I was focused on the landing part, I was way past the landing area and over the section where the airplanes were parked. Missed a wing by about 4 feet. I was fine, but it took a minute before my body cooperated and let me stand up. Once was enough.

 

Sounds more like what Chat"BCG" wanted it to say.

 

Hey I can’t help it if I’m brilliant like the machines.

 

The barrel would be full of water so it would just be a dud….but I know what you mean. Prolly not since the flash is a result of the pellet hitting the wall of ambient air.