Submersible Titanic Tourist craft goes missing

If Ocean Gate was incorporated, how can Rush's family be deprived of assets that weren't part of the business?

 

There are so many issues involved.

Presumably, his personal involvement allows them to go beyond the corporate assets and after him/the estate individually? Does the exculpatory clause hold up? Whose law applies..I think it's a U.S. company? Does the maritime cap apply? Was any negligence so reckless as to give rise to punitive damages against his estate?

In terms of his family, they may have trusts set up or even have their own money. Those assets are protected. If he has a spouse and they owned property jointly, that's probably protected, too. If we're talking about money or assets owned by him which family members expected to inherit upon his death, it's tough for them if they don't get it, but it's not their money.

 

Guilt has little to do with civil liability ultimately

 

As far as remains go, reports saying that the force of the implosion would incinerate most of the body tissue similar to the way diesel engine combustion works. The force of the compression would not need a spark to start the process and soft tissue would likely be incinerated.

 

I don’t think the billionaire families need any money

 

I'm really anxious to see some definitive reporting on this from experts. I am not an expert in any of this, but it seems to me that many are describing what would happen if there was an explosion or loss of atmosphere in a vacuum (space), but not an implosion caused by water pressure. I absolutely could be wrong, but it seems to me the first two things would be far more destructive to a body than a water pressure implosion. Interesting to read all the takes.
For instance:

That one makes zero sense.

 

The billionaire's (Harding) family may not sue, and I don't know about the others. Rush talked about attracting people of various income levels and said they even had people who mortgaged their homes because they wanted to take the trip so badly. I assume Rush had some asset protection planning in place.

What to know about the 5 passengers who were on the Titanic sub

 

Howso? Enough compression with a fuel source and you get ignition. In every account the heat generated by the massive force of the implosion would generate a brief combustion.

 

I’m less concerned about who is rewarded as I am about who is punished. Send a clear message to anyone operating in this world of extreme sports tourism that everything will be taken from them if they try to cut corners with regards to safety.

 

Air? Borrowing from a car engine, you need air, fuel and spark. Diesel substitutes compression for the spark. I just don't see bodies combusting under water.

 

What about air? There is air in the vessel?

 

Not after the first part of the hull failed. I can't say you're wrong, I don't know. It just doesn't make sense to me. In your scenario are the bodies the fuel?

 

I don’t know about the term “incinerated.” I have heard the term “atomized” to describe what happens to the human body under circumstances such as these.

 

Anything is fuel at a high enough temperature. The forces they dealt with were massive. The air didn't leak out when the vessel was compromised because of how rapid the implosion would have been. Air fuel and heat are all you need to ignite anything. Grain dust explosions can be ignited from static electricity or heat generated by friction due to the High surface area of the particles for example.

Edit: apparently the cold temperature of the water probably made "incineration" unlikely but under other circumstances the factors for combustion would be there.

 

This is what sudden changes in pressure differentials can do:

The Byford Dolphin Accident: How 5 Deep-Sea Divers Met Grisly Deaths

There are NSFW gruesome photos of the remains of the divers online

 

One of us is obviously just going to have to go take one for the team here.

 

Yeah that’s what I looked at right before I realized no part of them would ever make it to the surface. One of the dudes was almost completely obliterated and it wasn’t even close to as deep as the titanic.

 

Also, as more information trickles out, they may not have been nearly as deep as once thought based on when the navy picked up sonar of an underwater event believed to be the implosion? Apparently they are saying it was pretty early on in their descent so who knows how deep they were at the time of failure.

 

What I read was that they lost comms and location at the same time approximately 1 hour and 45 minutes into the descent. The full descent takes about 2 hours. So they were most of the way down.