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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Mar 7, 2024.

  1. ajoseph

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  2. gatorjo

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    You're still here shilling for a criminal traitor who led a criminal conspiracy to overturn an election? Even though his efforts included fake elector slates, coercion of local officials, and encouraging violent protest?

    Fascinating. Don't you care about un-American, criminal things like this happening to America? Don't you love your country?

    Oh, wait! This is all acceptable to you because....Al Gore "wasn't a man" 24 years ago? :)
     
  3. VAg8r1

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    Al Gore may have been pissed off but he did formally concede. Once again I haven't seen anything similar from Trump and in case I missed it please provide a link to Trump's formal concession speech. As we all know there isn't one and there never will be one even if Trump (hopefully) loses again this year.
     
  4. Gator715

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    I don’t have to agree with anything and you don’t have to believe me. That doesn’t change facts.

    Here’s the speech.



    But I know that won’t be good enough. He MUST accept that he rightfully lost the election and you’re going to impute improper motives for leaving the White House so none of it matters.

    Once again, you’re retroactively tailoring the standard to Trump’s actions. You people can’t help yourselves.
     
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  5. Gator715

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    Why don’t you go back to defending Hamas, troll.
     
  6. Gator715

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    Of course not, Gore is (D)ifferent.
     
  7. Gator715

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    Not at all, it’s rebutting that exact issue, actually.

    On one hand, Trump “conceded” because he didn’t want cuffs. On the other, he was prepared to basically go to war to stay in office.

    I’m sorry, if you actually believe these things simultaneously, you are an imbecile.
     
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  8. Gator715

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    It’s almost like Trump blows a lot of hot air, and basically everyone, including people in his own Administration don’t take him seriously when he does that.

    The end result, Trump talks a lot of shit that does not match what he actually does and what is actually done. That’s been the story of his entire career in politics. And both the Republican Party and the country are better for it.
     
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  9. Gator715

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    Again, adding things specifically tailoring your standard retroactively to Trump’s actions.

    Gore also didn’t have an orange spray tan and didn’t run in 2020. I guess that changes everything. :D
     
  10. mdgator05

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    Imagine having to argue that Trump would have been better organized if he attempted to overthrow the US government based on perceptions of his incredible competence.
     
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    No only that, but unlike Trump, it was shown he would have legitimately won Florida and the presidential election if a full recount had been allowed ... but Gore didn't whine and cry about it for next 3 years ...
     
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  12. Gator715

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    He whined about it in an Inconvenient Truth, and we still have Democrats whining about it to this day.
     
  13. AzCatFan

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    Funny what Trump said on the evening of Jan 6, calling the people invaders of the seat of our democracy. Because now, same Trump said on Day 1, pardoning those who were arrested and convicted on Jan 6 will be a top priority! And although Trump said the election had been certified, he never admits that he lost. Still can't admit it. To call this speech a concession is weak sauce.

    One last thing. Clinton in 1998 came real close to peace in the Middle East. Much closer than Trump ever got. Clinton got Netanyanu and Arafat to agree to peace. But the Palestinians, especially Hamas, didn't want the agreement, and launched the Second Infidata instead.
     
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    Is that the same guy who in that speech condemned the actions of the insurgents who attacked the Capitol and three years later is now promising to pardon or commute the sentences of every one of them who have been convicted of doing so and instead of referring to them as criminals now calls them "hostages" strongly implying that they are innocent of any wrongdoing?

    I would also note that he "conceded" only after the attack on the Capitol by the mob of his supporters that he incited to prevent the Congressional certification of the results of the election failed. Trump knew that it was a hail Mary that had little chance of success but even if it failed as was likely he still didn't lose anything. If he conceded like every other losing presidential candidate and accepted the results of the election the attack on the Capitol would have never taken place.
     
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    Everything about this post is absolutely ridiculous.
     
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    Again, if you think a disorganized unarmed protest at the Capitol was Trump's "ace in the hole" for some attempt at a coup, you're an idiot.

    He did not attempt a coup. He called people to peacefully protest the certification of an election he believed was fraudulent. That protest got out of control, largely because of Trump stoking the flames. That is not an attempt at a coup.

    All of Trump's actions there were wrong. But of course Democrats and the media take that and dial it to 11 like they do all things with Trump.
     
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  17. AzCatFan

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    From you, I'm taking that as a compliment. Thank you!
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    If you look at Jan 6 in a vacuum, then maybe you can come to this conclusion. But look at all the other actions, including the fake elector scheme, Trump's phone call to Georgia, and everything else Trump tried to overturn the election, then Jan 6 becomes just a part of the overall plan. Not completely well thought through, but first coup attempts often are not, and that's why they are mostly unsuccessful.
     
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    LOL !! What about the establishment of fake elector slates? What about him personally calling state officials and coercing them? Those things were OK?!

    Oh, I see now. All of Trump's actions were wrong.......

    ....but it was the media's fault! :) ::) :)


    (and you're still here shilling for him. Hilarious)
     
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    015 is like every other Trumper. They have to keep every comparative discussion at 30,000 feet because the Devil is in the details with his orange Jesus.

    One day Trump branded kool-aid will be in the stores and look out!
     
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