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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatoragman, Apr 1, 2024.

  1. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Lol. I bash maga heads too. What are you even talking about. If you think I support maga, you are just proving my point.
     
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  2. higator85

    higator85 All American

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    Your issue is that I bash certain Christian’s and when people insert Jesus or the Bible as a cornerstone of whatever point they are trying to make, I’m quick to point out that’s an irrelevant element to me and not one I accept.

    To you it doesn't matter the strain or sect. I bash one Christian I bash them all. You’re kind of like that Catholic League guy in that respect.
     
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  3. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Again. Nonsense. Any honest observation tells you i bash more than my share of (so called) Christians. Especially fake ones like the orange guy.
     
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  4. higator85

    higator85 All American

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    I observe, I don’t see it. You grudgingly bash certain people brought up in conversation but not the “Christian” part to their story.

    Here is a quick test. There’s a picture of evangelical pastors laying hands on DJT. Been posted several times here. Can you quickly call them out as Charlatans unworthy of the label “Christian”?
     
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  5. mrhansduck

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    I think people have been made aware of the SovCits, and I've seen videos where cops asks someone if they're a SovCit and they take offense to the question. This group at least seems to acknowledge that they might be, under some circumstances when they hurt someone else, subject to the jurisdiction of their state. Pretty vague Mission Statement that seems mostly consistent with people grifting or trying to avoid laws.

    The Mission of the ASP State National Committee is to inspire, facilitate, and educate men and women to restore themselves to their birth right under God as a State National.
     
  6. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    No. Not Without knowing more about the individual. "Christian" isnt that simple. I will call them dead wrong though.

    I have been abundantly clear that good honest Christians have been convinced by people with agendas that Trump is the only solution.

    The evil in those cases are the people trying to convince them.

    If one of those pastors is selfishly manipulating their congregation, than yes, I question their Christianity.

    **See edit below...
     
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  7. tilly

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    As an edit to my post above, most of the ones I recognize in those pics are indeed prosperity charlatans. Paula White (Trumps "spiritual" advisor) as taken the humble message of Christ and bastardized it beyond recognition.
     
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  8. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    @higator85

    Add John Hagee, Jentezen Franklin, Rodney Morgan Howard-Browne from the images with Trump as people completely benefiting from a misreading of the gospel of Christ.

    Charlatans.

    See, its not that hard. Their followers are misled. Those pastors however are pedaling the misinformation.
     
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  9. higator85

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    well good for you.p (took you three posts to get there but I’m not complaining). I will reassess. Having said that I’m VERY open minded.

    sniff…..
     
  10. tilly

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    3 posts? I didnt know who was in the picture man. Geez. Tough crowd.:D
     
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  11. Spurffelbow833

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    This group, like every other porcupine club that came before, fails to understand that the state's default position is not leaving you alone.
     
  12. mrhansduck

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    First I’ve heard a self-identified “common law National.”

     
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  13. Gatoragman

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    Grifting and trying to avoid paying taxes, etc... is most of what I thought but just wondered if anyone had heard of them or had any intimate knowledge of who and what they really are.
     
  14. mrhansduck

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    I enjoy some of the videos and have seen them a lot through those. I do not know any personally but Wikipedia has some background on the "movement."

    Sovereign citizen movement - Wikipedia
     
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  15. ValdostaGatorFan

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    I have a love/hate relationship with those videos. The whole spiel they give and the made up ID's and whatnot make me chuckle, but at the same time seeing someone so wrong yet so confident is irritating.

    "I'm not driving, I'm traveling. Driving is a commercial activity. I am not for hire. I do not need a driver's license. I am also going to charge you for my time since you pulled me over. You have no dominion over me." lol, gtfoh.
     
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  16. Trickster

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    I've dealt with them. I didn't find them fascist, etc., just weird and misguided. Many end up in jail for refusing to obey the laws which govern all of us, like them or not.
     
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  17. Trickster

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    You're taking things too far. In one sense, you're no different than those you hate against. Your point of view would be considered if you'd just lose the anger and tone it down. But I'm with you 100% on the MAGA cult.
     
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  18. Trickster

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    Hmmm. I'm 80 years old and have never known the state to require of me anything that wasn't intended for the common good. So, I'd say the state's default position is to protect us form one another.
     
  19. wgbgator

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    That's when you live with a national for like 20 years without being married
     
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  20. rivergator

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    Yeah, I'm having a hard time figuring out how I'm oppressed.
     
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