Somebody needs to check on Kid Rock - meltdown re: trans influencer

There's somewhere between 5-7 threads on the front page regarding LGBT stuff, depending on how you interpret them. I feel like I took crazy pills that this is somehow the single most important topic for the right wing.

 

Not even that, they are basically all specific to the T part of that acronym

 

TDS (Transgender Derangement Syndrome) is real.

 

1920: women get the right to vote.

2023: women getting prostate cancer.

 

That’s what I’m saying. It’s insane how much this bothers them.

 

Don’t underestimate this issue.
You may wake up one morning with vaheena in your hammock.

 

Honestly, I think a lot of it is displacement.

Displacement (psychology) - Wikipedia

A lot of people have been pretty iffy about progress on racial equality and progress related to sexual orientation (especially as it relates to their own position in social hierarchies). But they know that it isn't socially acceptable to display those thoughts in too public of a manner. So they find a group by which they can express those concerns in a way that they think is less likely to get social pushback. The trans community is a pretty easy target. It is a relatively small group (avoiding the issues that tended to turn the population against both racial and sexual orientation discrimination as regular people got to know people from other groups as equals, which made it harder to hate them) without much in the way of cultural or political power.

The parallels to the similar pushback on sexual orientation from 20ish years ago are stark. Back then it was always framed as "I have no problem with gay people, I just don't think they should be able to get married, adopt children, and I am mad that they are shoving it down my throat and that people react negatively to when I say bad things about gay people. Also, they are violating God's will." Now, it is "I have no problem with trans people, I just don't think they should be able to play sports, use a public restroom, be near children, and I am mad that they are shoving it down my throat and that people react negatively when I say bad things about trans people. Also, they are violating God's will."

You can even see it going one level further. Whereas the extremists in the anti-gay movements of the 00s tended to equate being gay with beastiality (see, for example Santorum's speech or a variety of pastors), now you are seeing them equating trans people to pedophiles.

 

3 of my daughter's friends (all from the same hood/grade/GS troop) are now living as boys. I think something is afoot. 3/20ish >>>>> 460/100,000. that is, I don't think they are all truly trans & I think what's going on is under-explored & mostly ignored.

 

My best friend is on this train. I was talking with him last weekend and he said even though he agrees with all the talking points, he thinks it's insane this is what the GOP thinks it should be focusing on.

 

It must be the altitude.

 

It's a valid question. Is it really more prevalent now or is it just more socially acceptable to be open about it? I'd guess it's both but likely skewed more to the former. Let's be honest though, that's a rough life to live as trans. You're going to face a lot of hate, discrimination, and funny looks from people. While I'm sure there's an attention seeking element for some people, I'd be surprised if that applied to the majority considering the overall difficulty of that life. That's why I have empathy because it must be really, really difficult to feel that you're in the wrong body and I have trouble believing that so many people are "choosing" this life for themselves.

 

LMAO don't know if anybody else noticed this but most of those 5-7 threads you mentioned including this one were started by left wing posters.

 

You understand that's how a message board works right? Posters start threads pointing out stuff. In this case pointing out how obsessed the right-wing has become with this
one issue.

 

I have been doing my part to help fight anti-wokeness.

Been giving up my craft beers to drink Bud Light.

 

Whatever else one can say, it's certainly not under explored and ignored.

This is a piece from late January talking about how much it's covered. It's only increased since then.


With the story about social transitioning in schools, in the past eight months the Times has now published more than 15,000 words’ worth of front-page stories asking whether care and support for young trans people might be going too far or too fast.

That cumulative figure of 15,000 words doesn’t include the 11,000 or so words the New York Times Magazine devoted to a laboriously evenhanded story about disagreements over the standards of care for trans youth; or the 3,000 words of the front-page story from its designated anti-wokeness-beat reporter, Michael Powell, on whether trans women athletes are unfairly ruining the competition for other women; or the 1,200 words of the front-page story by Powell on how trans interests are banning the word “woman” from abortion-rights discourse; or the various expressions of polite skepticism or open hostility toward trans interests from opinion-page columnists like Michelle Goldberg (fretting about “progressive taboos around discussing some of the thornier issues involved in treating young people with gender dysphoria”) or Pamela Paul (citing Powell to argue that trans-rights supporters “deny women their humanity, reducing them to a mix of body parts and gender stereotypes”).

The count also doesn’t include the 2,000 or so words in the story from the roundup box about intimidation and violence against trans people. The Times published that one on page A25.

THE WORST THING WE READ THIS WEEK: Why Is the New York Times So Obsessed With Trans Kids?

 

I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Do these girls from my daughter's friend group wanna be boys cuz they are gay, cuz they were raped, cuz they think they are ugly, cuz they crave pain & persecution, cuz they think it is cool? By the terrible dictionary def, they are all just trans. I don't think everybody who thinks they are a diff gender than their sex is really "trans". In my little society no one wants to address the why. There was a guy here who came out as gay in middle school. He is now in college with a GF & is pissed at his parents for allowing him to think he was gay just cuz he said so.

Dictionary
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trans1
adjective
adjective: trans

1. denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity does not correspond with the sex registered for them at birth; transgender.
   "the film plays into negative stereotypes about trans people"

 

Obviously I have no rejoinder to personal anecdotes. I'm just saying that the possibility that there is social contagion as opposed to authentic gender dysmorphia has been covered ad nauseam

 

oh, if that is the case then I misunderstood. I didn't realize your post was addressing social contagion (& all the other poss reasons people might think they are trans).