So what went wrong? (Non-political)

It’s pretty well known we have an obesity problem in our country that keeps getting worse each year.

 

You miss a lot when you’re not paying attention. I’ve not denied that Americans have gotten heavier over the decades. But I have dismissed BMI as a proxy for health.

 

Can you explain your stance on that?
BMI alone is not a great tool especially for people of a normal healthy weight.
But for obese people it can be a better measure or tool to use.

By the way, your post that I replied to said nothing of bmi as a proxy for health.

 

Healthcare cost will increase as the obese age and as more join in. I wouldn’t doubt obesity driven health issue will eventually be the greatest drag on healthcare costs.

 

What is really scary is how many obese children we have now.

 

I remember reading that, per the CDC, the longest-lived demographic was non-smoking women just short of “severe obesity” by BMI.

Of course a 400 pounder is likely to have one or more medical conditions. But correlation is not causation.

And now I ask you, what course of action would you prescribe for that 400 pounder ?

 

The policy noted that BMI is significantly correlated with the amount of fat mass in the general population but loses predictability when applied on the individual level.

The Problem With the AMA's New BMI Policy

 

Have him blocked but I can tell from the responses to missing posts that yall have finally dragged deeamliners goofy contrarian takes into the realm of fitness and health again.....

 

Get fatter than them myself.

 

That might be easier than the usual recommendation, long-term weight loss being close to impossible.

On the other hand, if you’re anything like me, you could stuff yourself for days, get sick of eating and lose the weight back.

 

They haven't aged a day! What's their secret? Looks like they ate one of the kids, though.

 

Anyone know how’s he’s doing in his information-restricted hole ? I miss the guy.

 

And “Science!” has never had less sting than since 2020.

 

Quality of life and risk of severe diseases causing hospitalization is way up for obese people.

Just look at that stat for those who get covid or the flu.

Obesity Impairs the Adaptive Immune Response to Influenza Virus

Can you find a link to that CDC study?

 

All such suppositions test on the evidence-free assumption that arbitrary weight metrics are the cause of health vulnerabilities rather than an association with such.

Additionally, since influenza is not a virus, I’d want more information regarding what susceptibility entails.

And I’ll try to scrounge up the study.

Meantime …

As the authors emphasized: “Obese and severely obese patients had a lower mortality rate than that of normal weight patients.”

Junkfood Science: Obesity Paradox #15 — No need to stroke out

 

When graphs don’t tell the whole story …

I specifically use the 1978 BMI bell curve because this community is actually youthfully skewed and not representative of the population at large. Of course we do have those born between 1945 and 1964 (those born during the post-war baby boom) as members here as well, but they are in the minority whereas they are most certainly the majority in our population at large. The shift to the right on that BMI bell curve may be entirely attributable to the natural increase in weight that will occur between the ages of 25-65. However beyond age 65, weight naturally decreases into old age and that may be why so-called obesity rates are essentially flat now and have been for the past few years. In fact they have been declining for women since 2006 and slowing in rate of increase for men since 2004 (Centers for Disease Control, 2010).

Lies of BMI: Women and Men of Substance — E D I

 

First of all, influenza is a virus.

second of all, I can list studies and meta data all day showing obese people faired much worse than healthy weight people when fighting covid or influenza.


Regarding increase heart disease,

Relationships between Obesity and Cardiovascular Diseases in Four Southern States and Colorado

 

Show me the first study where a flu virus (or any other virus) has been isolated.

Then show me the first study where a person fared badly, during the time of mass-derangement, *because they were fat.*

 

Obesity, Race/Ethnicity, and COVID-19

Obesity and COVID-19 mortality are correlated | Scientific Reports

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fendo.2020.595109/full