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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, May 18, 2022.

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  1. wgbgator

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    Lots of fun/weird names in English soccer, especially in the lower leagues
     
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  2. gator_lawyer

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    Thank you for the heads up on this. That's absolutely f'ing absurd. This is yet another example of a Republican "judge" deciding that she's not bound by inconvenient precedent.

    This is from the Florida Supreme Court: "However, we also recognize that this state's open government policy requires that information be available for public inspection unless the information fits under a legislatively created exemption." Post-Newsweek Stations, Fla. Inc. v. Doe, 612 So. 2d 549, 553 (Fla. 1992).

    The Florida Supreme Court has expressly rejected the application of judicially created privileges to our open records laws. See Wait v. Fla. Power & Light Co., 372 So. 2d 420, 424 (Fla. 1979) ("We . . . hold that, in enacting section 119.07(2), Florida Statutes (1975), the legislature intended to exempt those public records made confidential by statutory law and not those documents which are confidential or privileged only as a result of the judicially created privileges . . . ."); see also Rose v. D'Alessandro, 380 So. 2d 419, 419 (Fla. 1980) ("In Wait . . . , we held that chapter 119, Florida Statutes (1975), exempts from public disclosure only those public records that are provided by statutory law to be confidential or which are expressly exempted by general or special law.").
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    Wait, do people think 'executive privilege' isn't made up nonsense?
     
  4. tampagtr

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    In fairness to the Court, prior Florida governors were chosen by the voters, not Divinely ordained. Prior Governors were bound by secular law and earthly separation of powers. We are now resembling a near absolute monarchy, premised on the Divine Right of Governors
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    All law is made-up nonsense to some degree.
     
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    I have not read the parties' briefings on the issue and sure others know more. At first glance, the articles I have seen seem to state that the Florida Constitution expressly requires a two thirds vote of the legislature to create exemptions with respect to requests for public records. That looks like it may be Section 24 of the Florida Constitution? I am not aware of a corollary to that legislative requirement in the U.S. Constitution. There may be various statutes at play as well, and I imagine those would be different, too.
     
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  7. wgbgator

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    Well, yes, but "executive privilege" isn't even in the text of most legal documents like the Constitution. Its just something implied to exist, mostly out of expediency.
     
  8. tampagtr

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    You have just described about 75% of US Constitutional Law
     
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  9. tampagtr

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    DeSantis' attempt to make school board elections explicitly political advances in the House. It's obvious what is already happening and more is coming.

     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    Particularly the doctrines that make it harder on civil rights plaintiffs to win their cases.
     
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  11. gator_lawyer

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    This is technically off topic, but here's a great example:


    A prison allegedly held a man TWO YEARS PAST the end of his sentence. He sues the prison, the district court denies qualified immunity, and the government appeals. The Fifth Circuit REVERSES the district court despite finding that there is a clearly established right not to be detained in prison past the end of your sentence.

    Why? Because the plaintiff, who was appellee in the appeal, did not brief an issue well enough. Here's the absurdity of that argument. An appellee is not required to even file a brief. The appellant has to show error. The appellee doesn't have to do anything to win, if the appellant cannot meet their burden. So the claim that an appellee forfeited an issue by not briefing it well enough is both stupid and wrong.

    But unsurprisingly, the "judge" who wrote the opinion is Jim Ho, a man I affectionately call the Rush Limbaugh of the federal court system. This is a prime example of how "judges" get to make shit up to pick winners, and how it so often comes at a cost to a civil rights plaintiff.
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    sickening the way the pub legislators are rolling over in fear and rubber stamping everything he throws against the wall. our gubmnt is broke. go team
     
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  15. tampagtr

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    I find this belief that an agent of secular government is fighting for the Divine so dangerous. But that is the role he is auditioning for. And that's dangerous. Two quotes

    Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.

    Blaise Pascal

    During the US civil war Abraham Lincoln met with a group of ministers for a prayer breakfast. Lincoln was a man of deep, if at times unorthodox, faith. At one point one of the ministers said, “Mr. President, let us pray that God is on our side". Lincoln’s response showed far greater insight, “No, gentlemen, let us pray that we are on God’s side.” (Abraham Lincoln).


     
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  16. G8trGr8t

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    from that thread

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    I was stunned there is someone who does not know what cowboy boots are!!!!
     
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  19. tampagtr

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    The latest. Not sure what to make of it

     
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  20. tampagtr

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    Well who could have predicted this? Don't say gay, the tender years defense for Third Grade and below, is being proposed to extend through High School. And Rufo will likely make it applicable to universities as well in due time

     
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