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  1. rtgator

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    Florida budget language that created migrant relocation program would not permit DeSantis' Massachusetts flights stunt - CNN

    (CNN)It appears the budget language which appropriated the money for Florida's migrant relocation program would not permit this week's two flights, for which Gov. Ron DeSantis claimed credit, or the relocation of some of the migrants recruited for them.

    Two planes carrying about 50 migrants arrived at Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts earlier this week. The DeSantis' administration had secured $12 million in the state budget to pay for migrant relocation, and the governor had repeatedly threatened to use the money to send them to liberal strongholds.

    DeSantis said he arranged for the two flights which landed in Massachusetts, but the migrants had actually been in Texas.

    Florida's migrant relocation program, according to the budget language which DeSantis signed into law, says the program should move migrants who are "unlawfully present" in the United States "from this state," meaning the flights from Texas to Massachusetts would not have been covered by the budget, language and anyone relocated as part of the program was not legally allowed to be in the US.
     
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  2. coleg

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    Please get help understanding : The state of Massachusetts has legally allowed for sanctuary cities to exist. Three cities have chosen to be designated as such. Did Comrade DeSantis choose one of those? Of course not, since it wasn't enough photo op/publicity for him. He's a despicable human.
     
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  3. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    Because I enjoy it. I guess in the same way you enjoy critiquing political opinions/views.
     
  4. duchen

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    You just don’t want immigrants in your neighborhood. None of the nonsense in this post has anything to do with what happened to these immigrants. Just grist for people who don’t want immigrants on their neighborhood. Just like you said yesterday.
     
  5. gator_lawyer

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    $12,300 per migrant? Woof. Taxpayer dollars at work.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    DeSantis angling to have Broward County School super fired for defyinghis mask order and requiring students to wear masks. Removes 4 people form board, appoints his people, begins discussions on board removing super who dared to defi him.

    heavily democratic countywith school board run by appointed far right republican members all with close ties to DeSantis

    This sort of petty vindictiveness should give everyone pause. @tilly, do you agree with this type of behaivor, combined with the mistreatment of the refugees and the obvious misinformation thrust upon them..

    DeSantis-appointed board chair asks if state can suspend Broward Schools superintendent (msn.com)

    Grady’s speculation followed a discussion by the board of how Cartwright defied an order by DeSantis before the start of school last year. The order, issued in July 2021 when the delta variant of COVID-19 was raging and Florida was reporting more than 20,000 new COVID cases a day, called for parents to decide the issue of masks, not school districts.

    So, of the nine members of the Broward School Board, five have been appointed by DeSantis in a county that has more than twice as many registered Democrats than registered Republicans. School board members, because school districts are funded by local property taxes, are generally elected, not appointed, in nonpartisan races.

    The grand jury report, released Aug. 19, was the result of the Florida Supreme Court acceding to DeSantis’ request in early 2019 to impanel the statewide jury to examine school safety measures following the 2018 Valentine’s Day mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, in which 17 students and faculty members were killed. The grand jury investigation did not involve Cartwright.

    Since the grand jury report became public, DeSantis suspended the four School Board members, following the report’s recommendation. Tim Hay, a Florida Department of Education official, also met with Cartwright to address the report. After their meeting, Cartwright told three district officials to resign or face an investigation: Chief of Staff Jeff Moquin, David Watkins, director of diversity and school climate, and Ron Morgan, assistant chief fire official, according to a Sun Sentinel report. They all quit, the South Florida Sun Sentinel reported.
     
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  7. gator_lawyer

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    Okay, this is funny.
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    DeFascist has repeatedly shown himself to be just about as anti-democratic as they come.
     
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  9. Gator715

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    Apparently Martha’s Vineyard doesn’t want immigrants in their neighborhood. How bigoted of them.
     
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  10. Gator715

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    Democratic politicians in/from Massachusetts are exacerbating the problem by pushing sanctuary cities, approving sanctuary cities, and blocking any sort of federal legislation that secures the border.

    Many democratic voters go along with this because the problems of illegal immigration aren’t at their doorstep. Putting it there raises it on the priority list and will eventually push Democratic legislators to make a decision. Allocate resources to help a greater share of these people, which I wager will eventually put them in a pinch, or agree to enforce federal law, expect the entire state to enforce federal law, and agree to try and secure the border through federal legislation.

    Comprende?
     
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  11. Gator715

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    Massachusetts is a sanctuary state.
     
  12. gtr2x

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    Well that little speech has nothing to do with my question regarding Nantucket.

    Btw, I lived in SFla for many years. It's not as if Texas is the only area with immigrant issues. Still waiting for your side to step up to the table and at least help resolve the DACA issue. That should be an easy one, but then that's not one of the talking points, so...."nada".
     
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  13. Gator715

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    Well, I guess there are no jobs, no Spanish-speakers, and apparently no Hispanics in Massachusetts, which would mean they are ill-equipped to handle a mere 50 immigrants.

    Also, immigration is always a net-positive guys. They’re going to take jobs other people don’t want to work. They won’t be costly.

    Oh, and spare me from the Hitler owned a dog routine. Here’s the truth, you don’t have a right to be here just because you show up. If you disagree, stop whining about the inhumanity of the people who choose to put them in your backyard and put your money where your damned mouth is. Take care of them on YOUR dollar. Don’t claim to be virtuous for demanding someone else takes care of them on THEIRS.

    We consider this an emergency for Martha’s Vineyard having to deal for 24 hours what the border states have to deal with every day. You believe in equity, let the states share the burdens of illegal immigration.
     
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  14. Gator715

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    Also, Massachusetts is a sanctuary state.

    Sure, Republicans are soft on immigration causing a crisis at the border. Whatever you say.
     
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  15. gtr2x

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    Cool, no answer. Just the same old talking points.:rolleyes: Adios.
     
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  16. tarponbro

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    Does the federal government give money to border states for immigration? If it does, why would cities in other states send money to the border states? Also are immigration hearings held in the border states? If so, wouldn't it impose a hardship on the immigrants if they have to go back to the states they were sent away from for their immigration hearings?
     
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  17. ncargat1

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    Florida has over 21 million residents and approximately 700,000 illegals
    Massachusetts has over 7 million residents and approximately 250,000 illegals

    Per capita, both states have the same number of illegal aliens. Massachusetts just actually does more to try and help those people eventually find ways to become Americans, rather than throw them onto planes like pallets of garbage and dump them somewhere else.

    Let me guess....you are a "Christian", right?
     
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  18. duchen

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    You are evidently fact challenged. You can read what actually happened in other parts of the thread if you can repeat fake talking points. Since there are posts upthread explaining what happened, I presume you read them and are choosing to repeat this false talking point intentionally. This will work on those who choose not to be informed or who didn’t want the immigrants in their neighborhood also. Not not on informed people who can read. The greatest tool for fight lies is access to information. Your BS isn’t working.
     
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  19. gator_lawyer

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    You know that Massachusetts is a whole state, right? And Martha's Vineyard is only a small island that is part of that state, right? Do you think it's relevant how many Spanish speakers there are in Miami if I drop a ton of Spanish-speaking immigrants in Live Oak?

    Non-responsive.

    Actually, these people did have a right to stay in the country once they showed up. And this isn't a "Hitler own a dog routine." This is a "Hitler used concentration camps, so concentration camps are bad" routine.

    Border states have robust infrastructure set up to deal with this. But I'm sure that the state of Massachusetts could deal with it. Of course, that would require giving the state of Massachusetts notice and sending the people to the place with resources, not just randomly dropping them off on some small island to "own the libs." These are people, not props. They are victims of socialism. Show some damn empathy.
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    You don't think Jesus would celebrate this? Clearly, you've never met Republican Jesus. ;)
     
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