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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, May 18, 2022.

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  1. defensewinschampionships

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    Yeah I am opposed to permanent procedures for minors but confiscation of your child is beyond words.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    The exodus is just beginning but it is happening
     
  3. tampagtr

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    Yea, Christina Pushaw is going into hunt and kill mode as we speak over another leaked video.
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Are you saying people are leaving the state?
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    yes, lots of undocumented workers are packing up and leaving out of fear of being arrested and deported and losing their jobs once e-verify requirement and other laws kick in. you will be seeing crops rotting in fields and construction projects delayed due to shortage of manpower, shortages in all professions where undocumented workers provide the majority of the labor like house cleaning, back of house restaurant work, yard care, construction etc.
    in theory, many will consider this a good thing until the price of their lawn care goes up, the price of food increases, they can't get their tables bussed, etc

    My gutters were finally scheduled to be replaced last week after waiting 6 months and that has now been rescheduled two months out due to labor shortage per the contractor

    I know a restaurant owner who has lost 7 long term employees already. Those are not easy to replace in Collier County where Wendy's is payign $20 per hour.

    truckers with out of state licenses from states that do not have proof of citizenship requirements will be cited for driving without a license and not allowed to leave the place where they are pulled over. As I understand it, they will have to remain there until a licensed documented or legal worker shows up to move the truck.

    it is a felony to transport non documented workers so all those labor companies that provide farm workers to big ag will no longer be in business.

    this is just one of many draconian laws that were passed by the legislature with no consideration of the actual impacts in a rush to give desi and the gang victory points for his failing run for potus

    even workers with legal status who may be married or have kids that do not have legal status are leaving

    and it is only just beginning.

    Alabama did this, and it was repealed very fast once crops started rotting in the fields

    Local businesses losing workers due to new Florida immigration law (wpbf.com)

    Farm workers say they will be leaving Florida (yahoo.com)

    'People aren't showing up to work,' South Florida workers already feeling heat of immigration bill - CBS Miami (cbsnews.com)

    New Florida immigration law prompts travel advisory from Latino group | CNN Business

    Florida immigration law may spark South Florida migrant worker exodus | WUSF Public Media

    How America's harshest immigration law failed (nbcnews.com)

    Latino Truckers to Boycott Florida, Videos Show: 'Will Not Be Going' (newsweek.com)

    Florida’s New Immigration Laws Summarized: Statute by Statute — Florida Immigration Lawyer Blog — May 9, 2023

    this is just another gift that desi and his gang of whipped legislators have given florida
     
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  6. channingcrowderhungry

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    "'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party."

    Classic Leopards Party vote
     
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  7. gator95

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    Well, if a parent is mutilating their child by having gender surgery before 18 then some people could see that as child abuse.
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    here are jsut a few of the measures passed that will make it very difficult for an undocumented worker to live in Florida

    can no longer get an id in the state

    Florida’s New Immigration Laws Summarized: Statute by Statute — Florida Immigration Lawyer Blog — May 9, 2023

    Fla. Stat. §125.0156 and §166.246 are brand new statutes aimed at preventing undocumented individuals from obtaining a Florida ID. The new statute prevents a county (§125.0156) or a municipality (§166.246) from funding the issuance of any identification card or document to a person who does not show proof of lawful presence in the United States. If a person doesn’t have an ID, it is harder for them to engage in the day to day activities needed to exist in the State. Everywhere we go, we are asked for identification. If there is no funding for creating IDs for undocumented individuals, it will become harder for them to obtain an ID.

    licenses invalidated, even out of stat elcienses

    Fla. Stat. §322.033 is another brand new statute aimed at preventing undocumented individuals from using out-of-state driver’s licenses in the state of Florida. States have control over who is issued a driver’s license authorizing them to drive within their state. Every state recognizes driver’s licenses from other states, allowing a licensed driver from a different state to drive within the home state. So, for example, thousands of tourists drive into Florida each year to vacation. Florida authorizes those drivers to lawfully drive in Florida if they have a valid out of state driver’s license. Some of those states issue driver’s licenses to individuals who are in the United States without authorization. §322.033 makes those licenses invalid. If an undocumented individual has a license issued by another state that is a class of license issued exclusively to undocumented immigrants who are unable to prove lawful presence, that license will not be recognized by the State of Florida and that person will be issued a citation for driving without a license. The Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles (“DHSMV”) will maintain a list on its website of out-of-state licenses that are invalid. §322.02, relating to people that are exempt from obtaining a driver’s license in Florida, has been amended to exclude undocumented immigrants whose out-of-state license is invalidated under §322.03. So, a person who has an out-of-state driver’s license that is invalidated under §322.03 is not exempt from obtaining a valid driver license in Florida.

    scared to go to hospitals. worried that if their kid gets sick or they get hurt on the job that they may be reported and deported if they seek medical care

    §395.3027 was created to require hospitals that accept Medicaid to include a provision in its forms that requires a patient to answer whether that patient is a United States citizen or is not lawfully present in the United States. The statute is aimed at obtaining data to determine how many undocumented individuals are receiving government funded medical care. However, many are afraid that the information will be used to place undocumented immigrants into removal proceedings. The statute does require that the patient form that asks about the immigration status to specifically notify the patient that the information will not affect the medical care and will not be reported to immigration authorities. So, the new statute does not provide any mechanism for the hospital or any Florida governmental agency or official to report the undocumented immigrants presence, whereabouts or immigration status to immigration authorities.

    e-verify now required for all employers with more than 25 employees. I know a couple of guys that are in process of breaking their companies up into multiple entities to stay under 25 employees and others that have said theya re jsut going to ignore the law

    §448.095, which includes E-Verify requirements, has been expanded by the new law to increase an employer’s responsibility to verify the employment authorization of employees. The law requires an employer to verify an employee’s employment eligibility within 3 business days of the employee beginning work. Any public agency must use E-Verify and any private employer must use E-Verify if that employer employs 25 or more employees. The employer must maintain employment authorization documentation for 3 years.
     
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  9. docspor

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    Politically speaking this will go down as the Fla GOP’s biggest screw up BY FAR
     
  10. gatordavisl

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    Are you an educator jj? If yes, what do you teach?
     
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  11. channingcrowderhungry

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    But when prices go up they're just gonna blame Biden anyway.
     
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  12. tampagtr

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    Hinkle issues a deeply reasoned preliminary injunction, after reviewing evidence from another proceeding and all submissions against the state's ban on gender affirming care. He eviscerates the counter arguments

    The elephant in the room should be noted at the outset. Gender identity is real. The record makes this clear. The medical defendants, speaking through their attorneys, have admitted it. At least one defense expert also has admitted it.5 That expert is Dr. Stephen B. Levine, the only defense expert who has actually treated a significant number of transgender patients. He addressed the issues conscientiously, on the merits, rather than as a biased advocate.

    Despite the defense admissions, there are those who believe that cisgender individuals properly adhere to their natal sex and that transgender individuals have inappropriately chosen a contrary gender identity, male or female, just as one might choose whether to read Shakespeare or Grisham. Many people with this view tend to disapprove all things transgender and so oppose medical care that supports a person’s transgender existence. 6 In this litigation, the medical defendants have explicitly acknowledged that this view is wrong and that pushing individuals away from their transgender identity is not a legitimate state interest. Still, an unspoken suggestion running just below the surface in some of the proceedings that led to adoption of the statute and rules at issue—and just below the surface in the testimony of some of the defense experts—is that transgender identity is not real, that it is made up. 7 And so, for example, one of the defendants’ experts, Dr. Paul Hruz, joined an amicus brief in another proceeding asserting transgender individuals have only a “false belief” in their gender identity—that they are maintaining a “charade” or “delusion.” 8 Another defense expert, Dr. Patrick Lappert—a surgeon who has never performed gender-affirming surgery— said in a radio interview that gender-affirming care is a “lie,” a “moral violation,” a “huge evil,” and “diabolical.”9 State employees or consultants suggested treatment of transgender individuals is either a “woke idea” or profiteering by the pharmaceutical industry or doctors.10 7 See, e.g., Pls.’ Exs. 284 & 285 in Dekker, ECF Nos. 18



    Any proponent of the challenged statute and rules should put up or shut up: do you acknowledge that there are individuals with actual gender identities opposite their natal sex, or do you not? Dog whistles ought not be tolerated

     
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  13. jjgator55

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    I’m retired.
     
  14. gatordavisl

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    Congrats! What did you teach?
     
  15. jjgator55

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    Guidance counselor.
     
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  16. tampagtr

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    Wow, a line I missed

     
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  17. Orange_and_Bluke

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    At 20 years of age?
     
  18. middleoftheroadgator

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    That one left a mark.
     
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  19. Gator715

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    Yes it is. Lead the way. I'll be right behind you. ;)
     
  20. G8trGr8t

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    I prefer to fix the problem instead of run from it. Quitting or giving into oppression is not in my genes
     
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