So what’s new in DuhSantistan?

I have provided plenty. And hard data. I am not going to take the time to work the numbers again. But you can find them on too hot if you want. Think I had it through April/May of 22 before England waited over a half year to provide the update. But here it is…

Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics

 

The one who gave you the disagree to this post is another one, probably more so actually. I put him on ignore long ago.

 

This is exactly what makes this poster's position on vaccination so ridiculous.

If you take the time to click through several links and get to the actual data, you see that in deaths involving COVID-19, the mortality rate for those who have ever been vaccinated is half of mortality rate for those who are unvaccinated. As a control group, in deaths not involving COVID-19, the mortality rates for both those who have received vaccines and those who haven't is about the same.

Table 1 shows age-standardised mortality rate. In December of 2022, the most recent month in the data table, the mortality rate for unvaccinated deaths involving COVID-19 was 63.5 (these are all in 100,000 person-years), the mortality rate for those who were ever vaccinated was 35.5. Same story for just about any month you pick, November was 59.6 and 33.6, October was 118.0 and 58.4, September was 46.1 and 26.0, so on and so forth.

Yet they insist that this proves the vaccines are not needed.

And this isn't a one off. Every single time they post the data they love to praise so much, it shows that their understanding of the data is flawed, and the data actually shows vaccines are more effective than not being vaccinated.

Mods, please don't let him pollute the rest of the board with this nonsense. There is a thread where he can expound on his beliefs at length. (and I won't mind if you delete this post when you cut all of his covid posts out of this thread about what DeSantis is up to).

 

This brings us back to your inability to understand literally anything.

 

Well said. Spreading blatant disinformation in the face of all the facts and his inability to comprehend data yet arrogantly believe we’re all wrong is beyond infuriating. Honestly, if I was a mod, he would have been banned long ago for fueling so many lies, but that’s not my job.

 

Don’t let this poster fool you into believing these shots should have been approved and given to healthy people. The data speaks.

You have been lied to by the cdc and fda. A majority of people dying with covid have been fully vaccinated since I believe June of 21 (might have been July) in England. If you think the United States was somehow vastly different. Then you have fallen for the propaganda. There is a reason they have to this day not provided the hard data. To be fair…our system makes it harder. But the vaccinated have been the majority dying since well before 2022. The reason being…this disease kills old people. Especially old people with comorbidities. And that is the group that had the highest levels of taking these shots.

Most of you did not need these shots and the inflammation they cause. No one does now. But keep taking them if you wish. I am not advocating you not be allowed to take them.

Mods don’t let this poster pollute the board with trying to silence another poster who responded to someone else on a thread about DeSantis. DeSantis who is most well known for how he responded to Covid of all things. This is how people try to silence what they don’t like hearing.

 

Notice the lack of data presented.

 

He constantly refers to the data from England because he thinks it supports his case. It doesn't.

 

He is trying to play a rhetorical trick. He takes a population that is highly vaccinated (in the highest risk groups, without looking it up again, something like 95%), then declares that the majority of people who died were vaccinated. Rational people critically thinking through this would point out that this would be true if the Covid death rate for the unvaccinated population was anything less than 10x, which it likely is. However, he falsely tries to inply that this means the protection rate is 0%. The math has been explained to him in excruciating detail, which means he is currently just being dishonest.

 

I posted it. You did not like it.

But hey. You keep believing what you need.

When all is said and done this will be a terrible disease that we caused far more damage than necessary by the policies we followed.

 

If Israel provides the hard numbers like England. It will show the same thing. Israel would be a great source if they allowed all the data out. But there is a necessary narrative unfortunately.

 

cling to their guns and bibles
get in the back of the bus and enjoy the ride
bring a gun to a knife fight
the whole Alinsky radical confrontation mentality
attendance at a church led by a race baiter for a long time and no condemnation of said preacher

it seems that you may have a very selective memory here.

 

You posted data showing your claim was wrong. When shown your claim was wrong, you provided no rebuttal other than your opinion that your claim was correct.

 

ain't no fund raising in that

 

No. I posted data supporting my claim that since 50% of a population was vaccinated that 50% of the population vaccinated was dying. Now it is mid 90s because that is the number of older people who are vaccinated and it has settled in as the ones who in the highest percentage did take the shot. Which makes sense. Granted that is all basically irrelevant now with seroprevalence…

 

is this the covid thread or the Viktor Orban thread?

 

It is the Viktor Orban thread, but some chucklehead isn't getting enough attention and has to keep spamming his falsehoods in here instead of the coronavirus thread. Hopefully the mods will step in soon and clean it up