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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, May 18, 2022.

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  1. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    First of all, my gifs have been kicking peoples asses for days.
    Secondly, my contributions are not well received due to the high concentration of left wing extremists on this board.
    And now to the point, people are moving here certainly because of the anti woke politics that are welcomed in Florida.
    Don’t be mad. People like Ron. People like Florida.
     
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  2. gator95

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    Look I get it, you got called out for making up crap. Then you made up more crap about you having 3 families move from FL. At least be honest. I would say "you're better than that" but we all know that is a lie. Back to your partisan drivel.
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    Well its certainly not for affordable housing, quality education, good pay and low crime
     
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  4. GatorJMDZ

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    This helps explain his posting behavior:

    “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”
    Carl Sandburg
     
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  5. HeyItsMe

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    I ignored both him and 95. Complete waste of time.
     
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  6. gator95

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    LOL. Defending the poster who made up data on this thread. Too funny.
     
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  7. gator95

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    I guess I'd ignore someone also if they made me look like a fool like I did to you.
     
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  8. philnotfil

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    You forgot to tell him to take the L?
     
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  9. GatorRade

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    wgb, you are always so good at responding. I feel like I have read your posts multiple times to understand them and then do at least the same number of edits on my responses to make them sane, and then it seems you have a full blown response produced as soon as I hit post.

    Anyway, we could spill much digital ink discussing what is an “ecosystem” and what is “natural”, but I think the key point for us is this: is the whole point of the conservative enterprise to protect power for particular individuals or could it be to preserve the functionality of the whole system? I again don’t feel particularly qualified to make this determination, but I don’t see why it must be the former. It doesn’t seem like this what Burke had in mind in his writings (which again I most certainly did not read). The parable of Chesterton’s fence also suggests there is more to conservatism than hierarchy, as it asks us to think carefully before pulling down a seemingly useless fence.

    I might also state that while tradition is invented by man, it’s often the result of human action without human design. Ie it often comes about for adaptive reasons that no single individual really understands. It just works. Here, we can use the example of nixtamalization, where native Americans prepared corn for tamales with an extra step of soaking it in wood ashes. The westerners realized that they didn’t need this step to make the corn taste just fine, so they skipped it. And then came an outbreak of pellagra, due to a niacin deficiency. What the mesoamericans were doing, quite unbeknownst even to themselves, was liberating this vitamin via the cooking procedure. Many other examples abound, such as the Papúa New Guineans tradition of not sleeping under dead trees, and the Yandruwandha tradition of cooking nardoo. These traditions get ignored at one’s own peril, not the peril of those who invented the tradition. I understand that many conservatives simply believe that we often understand less about complex systems than we think we do and would do well to display humility in fixing them.

    To the next point: yes, if you started engaging in outright fraud but never was punished, I would be upset by this. The point I was trying to make is that defining what is fraud isn’t always so outright. Again, how many people have you met that think that socialism has been outright proven to be a failed system? And yet you aren’t convinced, because you see that a failed experiment may also indicate a poor test design. Why shouldn’t this reasoning both ways?
     
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  11. HeyItsMe

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    I would save your breath and just ignore him. It’s a fruitless effort that’s going to go nowhere. The guy is an arrogant blow hard who is still getting triggered and melting down over people wearing masks.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Ignore people who don’t hate DeSantis!
     
  13. dangolegators

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    You've been made to look like a fool many times and rather than ignoring the poster making you look like a fool, you just double down on it.
     
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  14. jjgator55

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    Yeah, Florida teachers filling kids heads with all that knowledge stuff. All boys need to learn is they can do what they want, and girls only need to know two things; obey their husbands and supper on the table at 6:00.
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    Its not really a question of capitalism vs socialism. These ideas all fall under the banner of the Enlightenment, and all the asssumptions it makes about, people, progress, reason, etc. If the assumptions of reason that underpin everything are called into question and no longer inspire an exchange of ideas and all thats left is a power politics contest of nations, then capitalilsm and socialism are all failed experiments.
     
  16. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You are struggling. What the hell are you even talking about.
     
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  18. GatorRade

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    Sorry, I wasn’t intending to make this about capitalism vs socialism either. I just meant that what outcomes should be accepted as evidence of a system failure isn’t always so straightforward, and I was using socialism as an example, as I know it’s one close to you.
     
  19. jjgator55

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    Struggling against you?
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  20. coleg

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    Trollin', Trollin', Trollin' down the river...... Tina Turner must have known this poster.
     
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