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So we have a new House Speaker

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by danmanne65, Oct 25, 2023.

  1. Gator715

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    California lost people, bud. Don't they have nice weather?

    "No state income tax.":D

    You do realize that's a policy decision right? It's determined by the state government. Nice to have you concede that Florida has had more success in the population growth department largely due to policy. :cool:
     
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  2. gator_lawyer

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    That isn't how it works, Ross Barnett. The Constitution applies to every state. You and the rest don't get to repress the rights of other Floridians because you are attracted to authoritarians. We won't capitulate to your right-wing Castro.
     
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  3. Gator715

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    When "the Constitution" is reduced to a restriction on all policies gator_lawyer doesn't like and a tool favoring all policies gator_lawyer likes... that's not a document rooted in any principle, it's just a weapon.

    Fortunately, that's not what the Constitution is. You don't get to define it, no matter how badly you want to.
     
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  4. gator_lawyer

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    Yes, it's a weapon because it doesn't allow the government to punish people or corporations for their political speech. Freedom-haters can't stand that. Right-wing Castro must be able to silence the "woke" corporations.
     
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  5. tampagtr

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    Can't see who you are responding to so I may be missing context. But the continuing reference to a "right-wing Castro" is driving me crazy. Plenty of right wing tyrants in Latin American history - no need to reference a "right-wing Castro" to borrow the concept from the Left.

    RW Latin American tyrants are the majority in Latin American history. Augusto Pinochet, Roberto D'Aubisson (technically not a head of state, but darkly horrible as death squad leader), Efrain Rios Montt, Bolsonaro, so many others. Just off the top of my head.
     
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  6. Gator715

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    Anyone who feels a First Amendment slight is more than welcome to litigate it if they have standing. That is currently happening with the Biden Administration.

    But we don't pick and choose the scope of the First Amendment based on gator_lawyer's opinion of it. That's not how the system works.
     
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  7. gator_lawyer

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    That's exactly what has happened, and DeSantis has lost over and over again. Yet, here you are making excuses.
     
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  8. Gator715

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    How many times do you have to lose and how big of a loss does it have to be for someone to be "hostile" to the First Amendment?
     
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  9. gatorchamps960608

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    Any way, back to the original intent of this thread...

    It turns out the Speaker's 14-year-old son was never formally adopted. So he was just a teenager living with a young adult prior to his marriage. This story keeps looking fishier and fishier.
     
  10. tampagtr

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    Who among us...
     
  11. gator_lawyer

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    There isn't some magic number. When a governor makes suppressing speech he dislikes part of his sales pitch to his base and does it over and over again year after year, even after he loses in court, he's anti-free speech.

    If you disagree, feel free to answer your own question. What's the number?
     
  12. Gator715

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    It's amazing how you tailored your standard specifically around your characterization of DeSantis's actions.

    Typical.
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    Couldn't even answer your own question, a question I answered in good faith. That says it all.
     
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  14. Gator715

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    No you didn't answer in good faith. You tailored a definition around the specific circumstance we're discussing.
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    Still didn't answer your own question.
     
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  16. dangolegators

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    It's gator715. He thinks Cubans have some special insight because Castro, and that's why they love DeSantis. It's too bad we can't install DeSantis as the right-wing dictator of Cuba. That would be win/win for all of us. DeSantis would be happy (because he gets to be a real dictator), DeSantis-loving Cubans like gator715 would be happy because they could move to Cuba to live in their right-wing paradise, and the rest of us would be happy to be rid of DeSantis.
     
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  17. tampagtr

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    Yea, they tend to think like that, and I say that with affection.
     
  18. Gator715

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    Cubans have a special insight into Castro. You disagree?
     
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  19. dangolegators

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    I wonder. If they actually did I don't know why they would support DeSantis.
     
  20. Gator715

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    Wow. :D
     
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