Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

So the FBI now says the virus came from a lab leak

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by 1990Gator, Mar 2, 2023.

  1. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,007
    1,182
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Actually, Covid was strikingly partisan. Democrats were much more fearful than were Republicans.

    I was at Goodyear today, getting my tires checked. In walked a young man wearing two (2) N95 masks.

    He couldn’t have been any more transparent had he had Democrat scrawled on his forehead.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  2. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

    6,198
    1,765
    2,043
    Apr 3, 2007
    Yes. That’s why I say “At this point.” At first we had no idea.
     
  3. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

    6,198
    1,765
    2,043
    Apr 3, 2007
    [​IMG]
     
  4. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

    73,187
    1,939
    3,883
    Oct 29, 2007
    gainesville, florida
    where is this on the forum page???
     
  5. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

    6,696
    1,372
    3,103
    Oct 11, 2011
    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  6. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

    14,372
    6,288
    3,353
    Dec 11, 2009
    I apologize for the fact that you support a ridiculous theory.
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  7. G8tas

    G8tas GC Hall of Fame

    4,466
    903
    453
    Sep 22, 2008
    OP it's now ok to trust the FBI? I can't keep up with you guys
     
  8. kygator

    kygator GC Hall of Fame

    3,073
    142
    348
    Apr 3, 2007
    Your side told you it was a ridiculous theory so you believed them.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  9. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    11,370
    1,018
    698
    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    Did you care to comment on the FBI report?
    That’s what this thread is about not the department of energy report.
     
  10. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    11,370
    1,018
    698
    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    Not to some here, which I find very strange.
    If it came for Russia would they best so lackadaisical about it?
    What if it was something that the US was working on and got out? I’m sure some here would be ready to burn the flag over that.
     
  11. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,007
    1,182
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    *sighs* germites
     
  12. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

    14,372
    6,288
    3,353
    Dec 11, 2009
    I very much think it matters. We are only 3 years into knowing this virus existed. I very much think that we continue to study it, hunt for it and try to find the origins.

    Understanding the origins has the potential for unlocking additional information that could be used to to improve anti-virals and even the vaccines themselves.

    If it turned out to be an engineered virus, using a backbone structure previously unknown to the world of genetic engineering, then it would be good to know because that would imply that the Chinese are light years ahead of the west in genetic engineering (hint: They aren't).

    I do think it is well worth continuing to study, I just do not think people are prepared to wait around for scientists to work.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    10,707
    1,341
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    It's not? Because the OP sure did make a claim about it ... "now both the FBI and the Department of Energy both say the virus came from a Wuhan Lab leak".

    I think that grossly overstates what the Department of Energy said ... what does the FBI report say? Did they assign a level of confidence?
     
  14. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

    14,372
    6,288
    3,353
    Dec 11, 2009
    My side? You mean the papers published by experts in the field?? That side?? Yes, I read them and I agree with most of their conclusions based on the data available and my non-expert understanding of their field of study. That sort of puts me on the "side" of published, peer reviewed science. Not a bunch of crack pots looking for headlines, while at the same time putting in the footnote that they have little to no confidence in their own splashy headlines.
     
    • Creative Creative x 1
  15. PerSeGator

    PerSeGator GC Hall of Fame

    2,289
    366
    1,993
    Jun 14, 2014
    What does "low confidence" that it "most likely" was a lab leak even mean?

    Is that like maybe probably? Probably not, but probably? Gun to our head we say lab leak, but we really have no idea?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    10,707
    1,341
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    The CDC's position, last I read anything on it, is that these types of viruses usually originate in animals, but they can't rule out a lab leak. I think that's a fair assessment, by people who actually have the expertise to study this kind of stuff. I'm scratching my head wondering how or why the FBI and Department of Energy even have an opinion on this.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  17. kygator

    kygator GC Hall of Fame

    3,073
    142
    348
    Apr 3, 2007
    Greater than 50%, but nowhere close to 100%.
     
  18. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

    10,965
    1,896
    3,128
    Jan 5, 2010
    Maine
    Yeah. This is the baffling part for me.

    It's like taking nutritional advice from NASA.

    Can't wait to hear what the IRS thinks about north Atlantic fisheries!
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  19. PerSeGator

    PerSeGator GC Hall of Fame

    2,289
    366
    1,993
    Jun 14, 2014
    DOE runs the national labs, so maybe they figure as American science guys they should have an opinion on what the Chinese science guys are up to.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
  20. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

    73,187
    1,939
    3,883
    Oct 29, 2007
    gainesville, florida
    i was told being blocked by the OP means i cannot see the thread on the main page, censorship is alive and well.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2