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So the FBI now says the virus came from a lab leak

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by 1990Gator, Mar 2, 2023.

  1. 1990Gator

    1990Gator VIP Member

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    I posted this on the USA virus thread but everyone seems to have glassed over it.

    House Dems signal opposition to declassifying info on COVID-19 origins

    So now both the FBI and the Department of Energy both say the virus came from a Wuhan Lab leak

    Two things to ponder:

    Why would you Dems oppose declassifying the info on the lab leak?

    and

    So can we finally call it the Wuhan Flu as it originated in Wuhan?

    Let me be the first:

    I've had the Wuhan Flu twice now even with all three jabs and i'm still here to post on this entertaining board.
     
  2. WarDamnGator

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    Come on ... I read that report from the Dept of Energy, and it said they determined with low confidence that the virus may have been caused by a lab leak...

    Let's at least start this discussion off with some accurate facts.

    Two sources said that the Department of Energy assessed in the intelligence report that it had “low confidence” the Covid-19 virus accidentally escaped from a lab in Wuhan.

    Intelligence agencies can make assessments with either low, medium or high confidence. A low confidence assessment generally means that the information obtained is not reliable enough or is too fragmented to make a more definitive analytic judgment or that there is not enough information available to draw a more robust conclusion.

    US Energy Department assesses Covid-19 likely resulted from lab leak, furthering US intel divide over virus origin | CNN Politics
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    Yes, part and parcel of the same fear porn narrative. Democrats want to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. Republicans want to go to war with China.
     
  4. mdgator05

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    1. Given that it isn't an influenza virus, that would be pretty dumb. We have known it came from Wuhan in humans since before it even showed up in the US.
    2. This is not a commonly held belief across all agencies of the government and, indeed, every agency is short of high confidence in what exactly happened. Here is a broader summary on the positions taken on the question across agencies:

    U.S. Government Divided On Covid Lab Leak Theory—Here’s Where Each Agency Stands
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    Right, left, various government agencies quarrel over origin of deadly unicorn dander.
     
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  7. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    Let's ask fauci, I am sure he will be honest, right.
     
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  8. Gatorhead

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    buckey - question - whom is the enemy here? The Chinese?? or is it Fauci and Biden??

    Speaking as straight as I can:

    Despite 99% of the Republicans and Democrats wanting to make this a political issue....... I call bullshit.

    The real issue is the truth. Personally speaking if it is proved that it was either an accidental or purposeful release of a biological weapon.......... China needs to be held to account.

    Right now I think Congress should pass a bill demanding that the Li Chinese pay every American that died from this crap 1,000,000.00 and that's based on an "accidental" release from the lab.

    If proved to be a biological warfare weapon of mass destruction with the intent of killing Americans............. WAR.

    While no expert, for me it's almost inconceivable that Li would order the release of a biological weapon in his own country, but then, little would suprise me about the cynical nature of that man or his Gov't.
     
  9. jjgator55

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    At this point why should it matter to average Americans where it came from? Don’t we have bigger issues to address?
     
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  10. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

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    The answer is actually right in the link you provided:

    We believe in letting committees of jurisdiction guide the discussions ahead, working with the administration and asking the administration tough questions," Aguilar said.

    I am personally not sure where the virus came from (though I still lean toward spillover), but if I were in congress, I’d probably have the same stance as Aguilar here. Privacy and security protocols exist for a reason, and I don’t think the opposing party should be able to override them just for curiosity, whether we are dealing with intelligence on COVID or Trump’s taxes.
     
  11. defensewinschampionships

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    Those of us called every name in the book for even positing this as a theory would like an apology.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Murcans gonna beat Russia AND China!
     
  13. okeechobee

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    Not just an apology, but how about some accountability? Accident or not, China manufactured the virus and allowed it to escape the lab. They then went on a coverup campaign that made Watergate look like a game of recess at school when we were kids.
     
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  14. buckeyegator

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    the thing is fauci swore up and down on 10 stacks of bible's it was not man made, if he lied, well, i guess all the libbies will say oops.
     
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  15. Gatorhead

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    So it's basicaly about partisan politics.................. OK
     
  16. buckeyegator

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    no, it's a question of having him and his all-mighty so-called knowledge shoved down our throats like he was a lord-god, only he and he alone could guide us through this non man made virus.god help the american people if it turns out he lied about the origin.
     
  17. Gatorhead

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    Glad you can pinpoint Fauci as being responsible. Did China have any involvement or did Fauci create, and plant the virus too?
     
  18. tilly

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    I mean... If it were found to be a weapon this would make Pearl Harbor look like traffic accident.

    Not saying it matters, but it very well may.
     
  19. buckeyegator

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    no, but if he had pushed the issue of man-made vs natural things could have been done to shut down the lab, but he wanted to be all powerful OZ.
     
  20. buckeyegator

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    funny how a anti libbie/fauci thread disappears from the forum.
     
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