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POLL: Should the US trade Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Jul 27, 2022.

Should the US trade Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner?

  1. yes

    23 vote(s)
    16.1%
  2. no

    120 vote(s)
    83.9%
  1. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    Griner, like Fogel and, probably, many other Americans in prison around the world, were incarcerated for doing some really stupid things. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t use diplomatic efforts to get the release of the ones who have received unduly severe punishments.
     
  2. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    Do your friends call you the assumption man?
     
  3. tampajack1

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    So I guess you were OK with a great negotiator, Donald Trump, negotiating with the Taliban, for the collapse of the Afghan government and military, without even consulting with them?
     
  4. tampajack1

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    My guess is that not a single person around the world will die because of the release of this arms dealer, with a possible exception of the arms dealer himself.
     
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  5. tampajack1

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    If I recall correctly, they were empty vape cartridges, except for trace amounts of the drug.
     
  6. G8trGr8t

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    Nope, common sense man and/or mr skeptical
     
  7. kygator

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    Also interesting use of the word "essential". Someone earning over a $200,000 salary and over $1 million in endorsements doesn't have to play overseas. That's simply a choice to make even more money.

    "...this kind of international play is essential for supplementing their income."
     
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  8. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    When and where is the pool party?
     
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  9. tampajack1

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    She was either stupid or careless, or she had continuously been doing this without the Russian authorities caring about it. In the latter case, it would’ve been a political arrest.
     
  10. danmanne65

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    How about the cost of getting her home was more reasonable than the cost of bringing others home. I don’t know what the cost of bringing the others was. I assume no one else in this discussion knows this either.
     
  11. danmanne65

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    The flaw in your argument is you are acting like Biden chose Griner over Whalen. None of us know how these negotiations transpired. It might be beneficial if you would stop assuming things that you don’t know are true.
     
  12. danmanne65

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    You act like it was a buffet where you get to pick who you want to release. Life doesn’t work that way.
     
  13. ncargat1

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    While you are ranting, can you define for me the following terms? I seriously question whether or not you even understand the terms you heard on some QAnon/Newsmax broadcast and just throw around because they mesh with your own closet bigotry.

    1. What Black Privilege is?
    2. What Replacement Theory is?
    3. What Equality is?
     
  14. tilly

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    Um. Yes there is lol.
     
  15. danmanne65

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    You act as if anyone here has any answers to your questions. Hint, we don’t.
     
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  16. danmanne65

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    I hope we put one of those trackers that idiots think we’re put in Covid vaccines in this guy. Use him to get the location and eliminate multiple bad guys.
     
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  17. tilly

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    That sorta makes the point. None of us had heard of him. Celebrity goes a long way.

    Celebrity gets headlines.

    BG should be home. Im thrilled that she is, but we need to do more for the ones none of us have heard of.
     
  18. mdgator05

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    Is it the black and lesbian part that you think makes her less valuable? Because it seems like that is very important to you.
     
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  19. okeechobee

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    I can almost guarantee Biden tried just as hard, if not harder, for Whalen. I’m not a Biden defender, but some of the topics on this forum get way out of control. Of course he tried to get Whalen. He can’t force a guy like Putin to agree to anything.
     
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  20. tilly

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    Agree 100%...but not a chance. Some making the call probably think his "liberties" are more important.