Shots fired at Trump during rally

He was wearing a gun nut/explosive nut t-shirt. Then he got killed while trying to assassinate the president with an AR-15. Then they found a bunch of explosives in his car. In what world is that not a gun nut?

 

I don’t think it was political (or at least nothing we’ve seen thus far suggests that). I think he was just a nut job who tried to kill the president for whatever weird reason. Similar to Reagan.

 

Hey now! let’s not get ahead of our selves. Trump is up in poll but not the president. At most Biden made him VP the other day.

 

I tend to lean this way too. I think he may well have been into the Cult of Donny, and maybe something Trump said or did hurt his feelings, and like a jilted lover, decided to get revenge.

Just a wag on my part.

 

It was a 123 yard shot. I'm not a military sniper but either this guy can't shoot or his rifle isn't sighted. No way he's even mildly into guns, which is lucky for all of us regardless of how you feel about trump.

This is likely a mentally unwell kid who just wanted to piss everyone he knows off and got extremely lucky the secret service was providing the same level of security as the tj maxx loss prevention. If he's in trump country that's an obvious target.

 

Not that this kid’s ideology matters one bit, but for something to count as evidence for a claim, there must exist an alternative that counts as evidence against the claim. If a right wing associated shirt indicates evidence of a left wing association, what wouldn’t count as evidence for that claim? Does his $15 donation to a left wing cause count as evidence for a right wing association?

I think we’re best not reading too much into a T shirt, especially when it’s a pro gun T shirt found on a gunman.

 

I thought that a strong possibility, esp if it was an older right wing “gentleman”. Trump panders to rw extremists, but there’s a small % he pisses off. Recently he pissed some off going “soft” on a national abortion ban. So he’s constantly playing with fire with that trash.

With it being a kid, most likely he was just deranged from social media. With him being described as a social outcast it was probably more of a “going out in a blaze of glory” type suicide mission. Like a school shooter. He definitely gives that vibe.

 

Not even mildly into guns? Because he only managed to knock off the president’s ear lobe? Was he only mildly into the explosives that they found in his car? Just a coincidence he was wearing a gun/explosive enthusiast t-shirt to his assassination attempt? Are you being facetious?

 

Well he was unwell for sure but a 123 yards isnt an easy shot on a roof, no cover, with a moving target, heart beating cuz he’s about to shoot someone. Was pretty darn accurate considering. Thats from one endzone line to the other.

 

I know plenty of [insert sport] fans that can’t even come close to playing the sport without embarrassing themselves. I suppose their ability to engage in said sport is indicative of their interest in your mind?

Anecdotally one of my cousins is a massive gun fan. His wife picked up a pistol without ever firing one before and outshot him easily. Guess she was a bigger gun enthusiast than he was…

 

Nah, it’s totally the same as firing at a piece of paper at the gun range.

 

He is a nut but not what I think of as a gun nut. Most of these kids don't own but the one gun they just bought and get their training from video games. A gun nut in my definition is someone who collects all types of guns and is probably a member of the local gun range. My guess is this is a kid with mental problems that got a rifle but is not likely a collector or regular shooter of guns as a hobby.

 

That wasnt my point. I was pointing out the both sides are doing exactly what he was accusing only one side of.

No one os questioning that he was a registered Republican.

 

Well unfortunately we just need to get over it and move forward. Says so about half way through it.

 

Bingo. Plenty of old farts that play golf everyday that probably never broke 80 in their lives.

Being a “nut” and having skill are not necessarily connected things.

I’m sure many meal team 6 members would be among the first to die in this civil war they long for. Being unaware of this is kind of a big part of them being… well… nutz.

 

At 123 yards you shoot for center mass with a high caliber round. Trump is 6'3" and 220 lbs. Moving his head and arms, but at the sternum level there's not much movement there. It's not a hard shot. If he was out for his morning jog you'd have a point. The hard part was making it to the point where you pull the trigger in that situation.

Again I'll say I bet the guy was a bullied teenager who wanted to make his bullies sad and be famous. If all your bullies drive around with trump bumper stickers and he happens to come, it's a great setup to do just that. Luckily he's not good at shooting. Well, wasn't good at shooting.

 

6’3 220? lol

 

I don't care. Continue with your histrionics and hypocrisy.

 

"There were good people on both sides today."

 

This whole thing reminds me of the Gunsmoke episode "Eliab's Aim" where Festus' nephew Eliab is following Festus around trying to shoot off a piece of his ear.