Shooting in Highland Park, Illinois. Near July 4th parade. 6 deaths..

The enablers will be along shortly with their usual bullshit talking points.

 

Look, somehow, somewhere a rancher in Montana needs one of these guns to shoot prairie dogs...

 

Meanwhile in other news a tree killed someone somewhere today.

 

I’m anxious to see what creative deflections they come up with. Call it a false flag, blame black gang members in Southside Chicago, blame abortion, blame gays, blame transgenders, blame immigrants, blame mental illness, blame video games, blame Hollywood, blame Biden.


Blame everything except…

 

Stupid remark at this point, not to mention callous!

 

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Except for that NRA thingy, then all bets are off.

 

Obviously the best response is to do nothing. That has been proven repeatedly to be especially effective.

 

I think you missed the sarcasm

 

Your words bespeak pervasive frustration and anger in America now. I, too, see it in a large segment of our population, a few of whom commit these utterly senseless acts. We can leave for another thread why so many are so angry, but I at least can assert without equivocation: today's republican party plays on it and thereby encourages it. To name just a few: look at Trump, Gaetz, Jordan, MTG, Boebert, and so on and so on.

 

What, moi, miss sarcasm?! Never. Honestly, though, I didn't think any sarcasm was warranted at that point, but i'll go back an apologize.

 

Sorry about calling your remarks stupid.

 

If there’s one thing that will come from today’s shooting, it’s absolutely nothing. Like I said in the Uvalde school shooting thread:

 

This has been happening for 50 years. Go ahead: blame “those other guys” = stupid, petty partisanship. Both political parties have been in power to make changes.

What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

 

Motive for this tragedy is of concern to me. Highland Park is an upscale Chicago suburb and 30% of the population is Jewish.

 

Your link shows active shooter mass shootings have risen a great deal since 2000. Per your link there were a total of 20 active shooter mass shootings in 2000, 2001 and 2002. There were 100 active shooter mass shootings in 2018 2019 and 2020. A five fold increase. There is only one party that has stood in the way of reasonable gun control measures and that's the Republican Party.

 

So far, one vote in for "no big deal".

 

That is what I thought when I heard about it too. Time will tell what the motive was. They have to find the guy.

ZAKA: Elderly Jewish man among the dead in 4th of July shooting

The ZAKA organization reported that an elderly Jewish Man was among the dead in the mass shooting at a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois Monday.

Several other Jewish people are among the wounded, Zaka reported.

The report follows a statement by Israel's foreign ministry that a number of Jewish people were among the casualties in the attack, which left at least six dead and 19 wounded.

Foreign Min: Jewish casualties reported in Illinois mass shooting

A number of Jewish people are among the casualties in a deadly mass shooting which occurred in Highland Park, Illinois during a Fourth of July parade Monday, Israel's Foreign Ministry announced.

 

Gun deaths per capita are about the same as the late 1960’s. So, is it deaths that are important or group deaths only?

We are a sick society. And, yes, the prevalence of guns makes our sickness more demonstrable and permanent. So, we need to address our sickness AND the easy access to guns.

 

If true, hopefully the sick p.o.s left something behind on that rifle (prints, dna).

 

Didn’t know that. Jews and people of color seem to get the brunt of hate, that’s for sure, and there definitely is a climate of hate here, though other countries (which don’t have easy access to guns) are experiencing it, as well.

Remember the expression of it in Charlottesville? It’s always been with us. I know you remember segregation and the violence when we grew up in Gainesville. I still remember this hate vividly and how as a youth I could not understand it.

But it’s not confined to the South. What is striking is that it’s almost always whites on the right, many of whom profess to be Christians. Members of today’s Republican Party are yesteryears’ Dixiecrats, and they are stoking and taking advantage of the same imagined fears as they did then. Trump is the embodiment of that, and it has gotten worse since he came onto the political scene. I didn’t support the policies of any Republican President from Eisenhower on, but I sure did respect them. They wouldn’t have put up with what Trump and his apologists and enablers do today.

Who has historically tried to lead us out of this morass? Democrats from Johnson on. Who has opposed that and today refer to Democrats as “libs”, “socialists”, “snowflakes”, and so on as nauseum? Right wing republicans. (The rest of republicans are dismissed by the right “RINOS”.)

Sorry to be on my soapbox again, but there are so many warning signs, and they’re coming almost exclusively from one end of the political spectrum.

I invite those on the right who I haven’t blocked to show me where I’m wrong. I’m always willing to modify my opinion where it’s shown to be wrong.