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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doctorg8r, Sep 1, 2024.

  1. sierragator

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    Imagining what one of SOS's great Gator teams would do to this team. Talk about ugly.
     
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  2. doctorg8r

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    Huh? You need to go listen to Shane Mathews (September 2 podcast), then come back and repost.
     
  3. gatorwalrus

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    More importantly he adapted his offense to fit the personnel and won a Championship. What a novel concept.
     
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  4. gatorwalrus

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    All that can be true and the coaching can still have let that talent down.
     
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  5. SewaneeGator

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    For sure. But most were happy for not only the talent influx on the OL, but that we brought in a new position coach. Of course two guys not doing a great job is far less useful than one guy doing a good job...
     
  6. gatorwalrus

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    I've been out on BN for a whlie, but I'm not going to poo poo big recruiting or transfer additions. Hopefully those adds can get coached up by the next staff and prosper at UF.

    Your comments on the "push back" lets call it, for being skeptical are spot on, but it's in the past now. The masses have seen the light, welcome aboard the Billy aint it bus, grab a cocktail, you're going to need several.
     
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  7. paidinfull

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    I think we’re likely to see Colorado level turnover with the next coaching change.
     
  8. eightiesgator

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    Which is exactly my point why Zook is still involved in football at Maryland. He hardly needs the money He loves football.
     
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  9. eightiesgator

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    Until you imagine those great Gator teams lining up against one of Miami's greatest teams, say, like 2000.

    It's good to daydream. For those who think Strickland refuses to consult SOS is unknown. Who know if they have or have not discussed this situation on many occasions. And yes, as much as SOS love this university, I'm not sure he would want to be put into a position to provide an additional boot to kick Billy out of Gainesville. That may be an ethical issue Spurrier is reluctant to cross...
     
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  10. antny1

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    Yes and no. Meyer adapted his offense in season to make it more functional because he forced his offense on the roster he had in 2005. He did that for long term purposes so it worked in the long run but we went from 19th in total offense on 2004 to 49th in 2005. Just saying. Your point stands overall but that isn't exactly how it went down when he got here.

    More to your point, it took Meyer half a season to say we have to adapt where as Napier is still plodding down the wrong path
     
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  11. eightiesgator

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    Actually, their total offense went from 22d in 2004 to 61st in 2005, but dropped to 19th in 2006, 14th in 2007, and 15th in 2008, but your point is spot on. He and Mullen had a vision on what they were to do, and built it. But to be fair, they also had a rock hard foundation of talent inherited from Zook and finished 9-3 in 2005, after the Gators went 8-5, 9-4 (on the field), and 7-5 from 2002-4. They didn't have three straight losing seasons (probably working on four) to have to recover from. Then again, they didn't have The Freaking Portal, either.
     
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  12. SewaneeGator

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    It was a part of that 2005 season I thought they'd mention in Swamp Kings but didn't. But immediately after the LSU loss, Urban and the staff took the bye week before UGA and retooled the offense to better suit who we had, putting Chris under center and playing Billy Latsko as an actual fullback. We beat then undefeated Georgia and kept that hybrid offense for the rest of the season and on into the next. It was a tremendous in season coaching job, not unlike Steve finally putting Danny in the shotgun after the FSU loss.
     
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  13. gatorwalrus

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    Yes, he tried, it didn't work. Then he asked himself what do I need to do to get the best out of my players rather than expecting a team that has continuously shown an inability to have 11 guys execute to perfection what he calls.

    This is a large reason why I rolled my eyes at "he needs to get guys that fit his system." If it is so rigid for that to be true then as soon as D coordinators figure out how to shut it down, he is incapable of adapting. We end up in the same place with maybe some temporary success in between. Miami may as well have been on UF's headsets Saturday. Did we look to have surprised them at any point in that entire game? Mertz was even worse on PA then non PA because the D didn't respect it at all.
     
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    Good listen from CD.
     
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  15. eightiesgator

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    Brutal!!!!
     
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  16. Mikog8tor

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    then on highttop they had two former players from the 06 squad on and they weren't overly nice either. Never seen so many former players coming out against a coach.
     
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    One of the former players was Brian Crum? a LB I think. He was on the sideline during the game. Paraphrasing here…. there is talent, you can see it, but there is no attention to detail. It’s like they’re not coached up on small things that make winning plays. There’s no peer pressure of guys getting on each other and holding each other accountable. On the coaching staff, he says too many players not tuned into the staff. Also at one point says something about poor quality of coaches, comparing it to his teams staff where so many seemed to be future head coach material. He wasn’t real harsh on the players seemed to think it was just not a focused team- the staff doesn’t have the teams attention. Not a winning culture.
    He wasn’t sure if these players went through enough adversity in training to know you can count on the guy lining up next to you. He didn’t seem to call them soft, more like they’re not really tested or pushed.
    There were two players, the other was a D lineman. Both were insightful and I may have thought Crum said one thing but it was the other former player, but they seemed to agree on their observations.
    EDIT the other player was Stephen Harris
     
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  18. gatorwalrus

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    They were biting their tongues trying to tip toe around just putting people on blast. A lot of "it's not personal" being reiterated.

    It's been a very long time since everyone, and I mean everyone is saying this staff has failed. I think Ga Southern is the closest.
     
  19. gtr2x

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    I would say it's a quaint little town with some great restaurants that fully supports its team, but its in the middle of nowhere.
     
  20. paidinfull

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    So is Gainesville, lol.
     
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