Secret Service erased Jan 6th text messages after oversight committee requested they turn them over

I hadn't even heard of BleachBit until the email controversy. BleachBit is much closer to something like CCleaner than it is to something like DBAN (Derrik's Boot and Nuke). BleachBit is for cleaning temporary files, caches, etc. DBAN is for erasing data and zero'ing out everything on the disk. I don't think a competent admin would try and erase important things off the disk with BleachBit. I have no doubt's that federal level data recovery experts could recover data from BleachBit, or even DBAN. At one time, DBAN performed DoD level drive wipes, but I haven't used it in probably 8 or so years. I used it at a local government IT department. Color me skeptical on the whole BleachBit thing.

 

Govt officials do this crap all the time, nothing will ever happen to any of them. Two tiered justice as per usual.

 

If it’s a politician that did this or a goon that Trump had inside secret service, I don’t think career IT guys are going to go down and possibly lose their jobs for Trumpista politicians.

So either it will be shown to be unintentional idiocy or I think it will be so obviously intentional data destruction that someone at SS will go to jail. They already have the assorted messages alerting to preserve the messages. Basically they just need to get the guys and gals in charge of the devices (and whatever this data migration process was) and haul them in for questioning by law enforcement qualified in this area.

 

Nobody cares.

 

The summer of love in '20 says "hello.".

 

I'll take false equivalency for $1,000 please.

The overwhelming majority of protests in 2020 were peaceful. A few got out of hand, and those who perpetrated violence or destruction of property should be, and for the most part, have been prosecuted. Even still, the underlying cause for the 2020 protests, unequal racial treatment in this country, has a cause that hopefully we can all agree is something worth working towards.

The Jan 6 insurrection? Built on a lie, not peaceful at all, and we'll never know just how close it came to overthrowing American democracy.

 

Sadly, the most qualified law enforcement happens to be the USSS.

 

I'll take defend your team for $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
We will also never know how little of a chance Jan 6 actually had of overturning our American democracy.
I'm defending it, just saying we can play these what if's all day. We know laws were broken and unlawful folks should face the consequences, whether it be summer of love or Jan 6 or deleting emails or deleting text.
Can't we at least agree on unlawful acts should be punished?

 

America has a history of race riots. The Orange Riots with the Irish Americans. The Zoot Suit Riots with Mexican Americans. The Civil Rights Movement with mostly African Americans. The 2020 protests with a few riots are tame in comparison. And while we hope the 2020 protests and riots will be the last racial clashes this country sees, sadly, given our current state, that is highly unlikely to be true.

But has this country ever seen anything like Jan 6? A large, internal, coordinated effort to overthrow the government? I can't think of an analogue. And while true, we'll never know just how close the insurrectionists got to actually overturning American democracy, just the fact that we can make this statement and not laugh Jan 6 off as a complete non-threat should tell us all something.

And agreed, all those who broke the law, either during Jan 6 or the 2020 protests that turned into riots should be charged and punished. But then, we also have a history of charging peaceful protesters with crimes they didn't commit just to punish them. Sadly, this hasn't ended in this country yet either. By the way, the gang charges in the linked story have all since been dropped. How many Jan 6 charges have been dropped to date?

 

Actually it was absolutely State Department policy at the time for employees to decide themselves what was personal and what wasn't for the sake of retention.

 

I read your link and that is sad we still have such bias's as to fabricate/embellish facts to try and get outcome desired.
I think this is a lot of the problem with why people get so skeptical about media and government. I think too often we see the outcome desired and define the story/facts to get the desired outcome. We all need to try improving on that, but we must first accept we might have been wrong in the first place. I don't succeed all the time but I'm trying.

 

Hello big-gov Dad. How are doing?

 

I'm sure this latest development from the Stewart Rhodes trial, in which he is asserting as a defense that they expected 45 to call on the OathKeepers as an armed militia to be ready at the Capitol, and other OathKeepers thought he was in touch with a Secret Service agent that day, is TOTALLY UNRELATED to the records being "routinely" erased.

 

I have little doubt that there is a MAGA element in the SS, how big I do not know, but apparently big enough that the VP didn't want to get in the car with a crew he didn't trust. That incident should give us all pause to think that a contingent responsible for protecting the executive branch was willing to particiapte in preventing the peaceful transition of power. Even more discouraging is that little to nothing has been done to ferret out that element and remove them from the service. That would indicate to me that the rot runs deep

 

Brainwashing works.

 

TDS much. Trump is not the president. Will I suffer two more years of Trump did it?

 

6 if he somehow snakes his way back into the White House.
And that’s the point, he still has a massive hold over nearly half the country and is currently the presumptive nominee right now for ‘24, so he is more than relevant still unfortunately.
If you want people to stop talking about him, convince your fellow conservatives to stop supporting him. Then he will go away and we all win. You won’t have to hear us and we won’t have to hear him.

 

Yes, definitely TDS.

 

LOL. The actual derangement is in those who can’t see them for the danger he is, and it isn’t about his policy positions, those that are bad can be overcome. We do that very four years.
58 percent of Americans recognize his movement as a threat to democracy. That is the fear, what he is doing to the underpinnings of our country to serve his own ends. But yeah, it’s the nearly 60 percent who are deranged (including quarter of republicans who must be deranged too).
Most Americans see Trump's MAGA as threat to democracy: Reuters/Ipsos poll