Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Scotus agrees to hear birthright citizenship case

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Apr 17, 2025 at 9:01 PM.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    19,734
    6,681
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    We ratified the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868. And the intention was for it to provide citizenship to any person born in the U.S. who was subject to her jurisdiction. That included people who came here illegally.
    While that is mostly correct, it is not exactly correct. There were enslaved people who were brought here illegally after we banned the importation of enslaved people in 1807 (effective in 1808). There is no dispute that the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment intended to provide those people and their descendants citizenship. Additionally, California passed a law in 1858 that prohibited Chinese people from immigrating there (the state supreme court struck it down four years later). Yet, the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment agreed that the children of Chinese immigrants would also benefit from birthright citizenship (example below).
    [​IMG]
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  2. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    16,094
    5,601
    3,208
    Nov 25, 2017
    No it wasn’t. Because it’s express language was not limited to children of slaves. It has had the same meaning and understanding historically since 1868. This case should be quick, easy and 9-0. I am predicting 7-2
     
  3. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    16,094
    5,601
    3,208
    Nov 25, 2017
    The diplomat has immunity. The non-diplomat terrorist does not
     
  4. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    11,751
    1,461
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    Think about what you are saying, bro ....if they are not subject to our laws, then what law are they breaking by being here?