Scientists conclude that it was not a Wuhan lab leak

The point I was making is just that the fact that some scientists are against an idea is no proof that idea is correct, as they are also quite against stupid ideas. As Carl Sagan once put it, “But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.”

 

The irony of the guy who does not understand how to read a graph. The graph has nothing to do with rates.

 

It 100% is a lie. Post your source for the chart and have them give us the hard numbers of who died. You are the one posting a what could be a self made graph or propaganda…

 

Stop your lying ... the second chart I posted cites the CDC as the source. I get that facts hurt your feelings, but if you think it's wrong, post the real chart, time for you to put or shut up.

 

LOL!

The graph you posted and I responded to has nothing to do with rates. Stop lying as you know the vast majority of people dying were elderly with comorbidities. Jabbed or not jabbed. And we both know the vast majority were jabbed. So know the vast majority dying were jabbed as the shot rolled out over time. And quickly as that group was jabbed the quickest. Stop peddling the BS.

 

This is true. However on covid…the ones who were silenced were far more right on their ideas than the few who peddled a one size fits all approach that is the antithesis of medicine and science. On top of that 95 has shown that you just need common sense to know this thing almost certainly (yes I prefaced with almost certainly) came from a lab in Wuhan. Shoot. It was likely out months before what the common consensus says as well.

 

COVID mortality rate dropped after vaccination for all age groups 12 and older. Multiple studies show this to be true. Morality rates has been explained here time and again, but simply put, just because more vaccinated persons died, doesn't mean the vaccine didn't prevent deaths.

For example, take a group of 100 people, 90 of them vaccinated, 10 not. If there are three deaths among the vaccinated, and 1 death among the unvaccinated, there will be 3X more dead from the vaccinated group. Idiots will look at this data and claim that the vaccine doesn't work! But smart people will look at mortality rates and see the rate for the unvaccinated is 10%, where in the vaccinated group, it's only 3.3%. Meaning, the vaccine saved 6 persons lives because of the much lower morality rate per person.

 

Vaccines 100% effective at preventing fictitious pathogens …

Has the “Virus” Been Isolated? No.

 

Yeah .. the rates would probably look even less favorable to your BS spin, so I totally get why you don't want to present any data to back up your claims. I'm sure you googled it already, but are still pretending your are right
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Your the one posting BS lies. You and I both know the elderly with comorbitities dies jab or no jab. And they were the ones that absolutely took the jab at the highest of all rates.

Look. We are in 2025. We caused generational damage to the trust in vaccines and medicine as a whole with how the few idiots handled Covid. We need to move on. You posting a lie like you did is not helping!

 

Safe and Effective

 

I don't even know what point you think you are making. Let's assume you are right, and the elderly and people high risk got the vaccine the most ... Now look at the charts.... You are actually making the point of how good the vaccine worked if the number of all those high risk people dying fell well below the unvaccinated....

 

LOL!

Covid was dangerous to one group. We knew that from the beginning. That group died at the same basic rate jabbed or not jabbed. We would have done much better focusing on smart therapeutics (how did the ventilators and expensive drugs go) over a shot that damaged trust in medicine and was pushed on people at almost no risk to the disease.

Please stop pushing your BS that continues the damage!

 

"Same basic rate." Prove it. At what rate did the elderly die when vaccinated vs. non-vaccinated? Provide the rates to back your claim. Feel free to use any age group that you want.

 

Watching warring factions duke it out unicorn dander infusion efficacy.

 

Go sit on a ventilator or take a super expensive drug. Lock up inside your house if you wish.

Absolutely the elderly needed to take precaution. But we caused generational damage for no reason. Let it go. You fell for it…

 

I notice a distinct lack of numbers in this post. You made a claim: "Same basic rate." I offered you a chance to prove it by showing the two rates. You didn't.

I suspect it is because you lied. I suspect that I could respond to you 20 times, and you would never provide those rates because you lied and got caught.

 

The hard numbers speak for themselves. Sadly we never provided them. But common sense with the hard numbers from the few countries that provided them along with extrapolation made it easy to see. Those who were elderly and especially with comorbidities were the only real group at risk. Jab or no jab.

Stop continuing the damage by ignoring reality. We don’t need to have good drugs ignored because you fell for the the BS of Covid.

 

Sure we did. You can easily find the rates of death for vaccinated and unvaccinated people by age group in the US, Canada, and at the state and province level for many states and provinces. In fact, here is the data for the US for people over 80. You can look at any age group that you want easily.

United States: COVID-19 weekly death rate by vaccination status


You are wrong again. It isn't digging you out of this hole where you claimed that the rates were the "same basic rate."

 

You just have to be slow at this point to not understand elderly with comorbidities are the ones at risk. But carry on…