Scathing Stricklin article from All kinds of weather

Withhold the money needed to get the talent and fire the ad and coach for underperforming. That’s genius level planning and these guys think they are highly intelligent.

 

Not sure if you have ever been a major investor in a company but when you are asked to continually put $ in with substandard results, you face a decision. Good money after bad or withhold $ and demand change. By all accounts we have had top 20 (if not top 10) NIL money and we have losing seasons. The money is getting antsy I believe and that is a good thing. Add in that the $400M stadium renovation requires $ from the same folks who fund NIL and the problem is crystal clear. Anybody focusing on the stadium rather than the product on the field has the cart in front of the horse. Granted, just my opinion, but I’m far more likely to be in the stands on a bench for winning games than in a nice chair back for losing seasons. I do believe others agree.

 

All great points @SeabudGator. College athletics is a results-driven big business. This was posted more graphically on another thread, but to summarize: During Jeremy Foley's last 5 years as AD, Florida won 56 SEC championships and 12 National Titles. During Scott Stricklin's first 5 years, mainly with Foley hires, UF won 30 SEC titles and 6 National championships. That's -26 in SEC titles, -6 in national titles for Stricklin. Huge difference in results.

 

Anyone remember the bashing Jeremy Foley got on this board? He may not have always successful in his coaching picks. However, he was a Gator through and through.

 

Fire em now or support them. No sense cutting them at the knees and watching them twisting the wind. We need a few more good portal players to get tge product on the field some wins. The best talent usually wins.bama not so much this year.

 

Can someone tell me how women's tennis won 9 conference titles in the last 5 years under Foley?
Do they have conference 2x per year?
It also lists lacrosse as having won 10 titles in the last 5 years under Foley, and 8 under SS??

 

For tennis, Singles and doubles? No guess for lacrosse.

 

For women’s tennis, regular season championships plus conference tournament championships. Not sure about lacrosse.

 

Could be the same. Forgot they award both. Lots of sports do it that way. Baseball, softball, basketball..

 

Same - regular season and tournament.

 

Nice post. Thanks.

And even as this should be intuitive, I will just add it here, since this is YOU who is kicking the hornet's nest. If anyone does not like how other people's money is being spent, it is always in play to spend OUR money differently and teach "those folks" a lesson in proper priorities.

I guess I could also add that what you have inferred (perhaps inadvertently) is that Stricklin may be attempting to lead from the rear when what we desire is a leader who leads in a turbulent time. Let's call it "prudence as it relates to his paycheck". And again, if that sort of administrator is less-than-ideal, spend enough money to get a seat on the board. THEN you can get someone more in line with what you desire.

But again, that involves the money thingy. Easier to bellyache on a sports forum. It is what it is.

 

You posted the original link so I'll take this up with you.
That graphic is incorrect or at best mis-leading- I thought it was when I saw it.

If you simply take the tenure to the end of the last school year (23), men's outdoor wins 2 more nattys. (IDK about the other sports.)
Further, let's remember that THERE WERE NO CHAMPIONSHIPS GIVEN OUT IN ALL SPRING/WINTER SPORTS IN 2020.
So none of our spring teams had a chance to win titles that year.
Therefore, it comparing apples to oranges.

I also find it ridiculous to count NINE titles in 5 years for tennis and SIX for soccer.
And that's a major part of the difference. 15 of the 26. At most a team should be credited for 1 title per season.

So while certainly I have concerns about SS (women's basketball and soccer choices to name 2) a deeper dive reveals that graphic purposefully leaves out info just to advance an agenda. So count me suspicious.

 

It was posted on Reddit and is outdated. I don’t think there was an agenda rather than giving a snapshot of the program at that time. Your point about covid is valid, but the overall trajectory of the athletic department is not as healthy as it once was.

 

I completely agree with that.
As I said, the picks for women's bball and soccer left me concerned. I just don't get it.

Whether SS is a great or good or mediocre AD- I don't know.
I'm glad we have Mouse Holloway for track.
Strangest hire ever but it ended up being a home run.
(He was promoted from within but had no prior college coaching experience before UF- except as a GA.)

 

Why can't they just cut the stadium reno to 350MM and divert the balance of funds to NIL with donor approval? Surely 15% or so will say yes. They can even still have their name on the stadium somewhere so everyone knows they donated money.

 

One should look at the win-loss record,SEC championships and national championships in all sports under Jeremy’s tenure. He was widely considered the best AD in the country.

 

Maybe withholding keeping up in football and diverting cash to other sports made for a bunch of championships in minor sports but football fell way behind. Don’t let your cash cow die fools.