And the idea that Glover is more of a "true" PG than Appleby is pretty ridiculous. Glover's assist rate while at Florida was like 10%. He's succeeding at Samford and that's awesome, and he certainly could provide a spark for a high-major program, but thinking he'd fundamentally change this UF team based on his performance at Samford is pretty ridiculous.
Now this I can agree with. If you had stated a concern regarding consistency from the beginning, I'd be on board. I'm just not in agreement with the yes/no either/or proposition. And I also don't find the comparison beneficial, as it creates a tendency to argue against one of our former Gators, so with that, I'm going to dip out and say "thanks" for your continued basketball knowledge.
I do think Appleby will be a solid pro somewhere with his skillset. Kinda similar to Walter Hodge in his ability to make tough shots.
Because Appleby has been a starter for 3 years, while this is Glover’s first year of starting in 3 years of college. It’s like comparing a polished diamond to a raw diamond. I would hope a player with two more years of growth would look miles better than essentially a first year starter.
That's not fair -- Appleby was fine as a true freshman at CSU. At a certain point one has to try to play "scout" given the various nuances in difference in competition levels at various ages, and to me, Appleby is a player with a higher ceiling than Glover.
I believe that Glover's assist to turnover ratio this season is 1.63, not the 1.1 reported by Gatordavis.
I am saying it is not an apples to apples comparison. Appleby played 2 seasons at CSU, and then transferred to UF, redshirted, and is now in his 3rd year at UF. Glover played two years at UF where he got limited minutes (averaged 8.4 mins over 20 games in 2021), and then transferred to Samford and is now averaging 30+ minutes a game. Glover is just now getting comparable minutes to what Appleby got at this point in his career. Would Glover have started as a Freshman at Samford? There is no way to tell.
The comparison was introduced in the last sentence of the OP. It was an underlying purpose of the thread.
I don’t think that what he did at Florida was relevant for numerous reasons that I have previously stated.
Then Appleby's stats at UF aren't relevant, either. He'd obviously be putting up ridiculous stats at a low-major.
Glover is gone and everyone is happy that he is having some success at the mid-major level, which is where he should have signed in the first place. UF was his only major DI offer out of HS and being film doesn’t lie, I don’t believe he had major offers after announcing he was transferring out. Again, good for Ques and hope he has continued success at Samford.
These posts get more and more laughable. I have yet to hear an intelligent explanation as to how a guy scores 21 points and wins national player of the week honors in an upset against a healthy Ole Miss team on the road, scores 25 against a San Francisco team that appears to be better than the Gators, goes for 16 points and 9 assists in an upset of Oregon State on the road, is leading a team that’s the hottest in a solid Southern Conference averaging 23 points and 5 assists per game over the last 6 conference games. But it’s still the same old garbage about no power conference teams wanting him. My guess is that a boatload of power conference teams would like to have him now.
Why do you think he did not go to a Auburn, Tenn, heck Geo could use him. Was he not sure of his ability or did 200 plus teams just missed on him ?
You have heard plenty of explanation… but opt to ignore. Here it is again….. Glover is a talented player, and a high volume scoring threat. At Samford, he is likely an offensive focal point…. allowing him opportunity to produce the results you mention. Many smaller schools have a player with this type role. I randomly looked at box score for Iona -v- Bama. Nelly Junior Joseph had 15 points and 11 rebounds. I have watched him play, in person, several times. He is a really nice player for the Gaels, and has had some great performances. But I wouldn’t want him playing over Colin Castleton. Similarly, I think Ques is doing great where he is, and in the role he has been afforded. But I don’t think that role (15 fga per game) would work at Florida, and I wouldn’t want him over App.
Man, Oregon State is 3-22 this year. They haven't won a game since December 21. Let's not confuse them with a somewhat decent Power 5 team. They're the lowest rated Power 5 team in the NET rankings.
Really more about D at the guard position. The majority of our losses have been due to guard play. Our scored head fo head at Guard position.
As I said, I have yet to hear an intelligent explanation. I have refuted every explanation given, including yours. Glover doesn't shoot many 3's, although, because of his 4-4 on 3's on Saturday, his 3-point % is now in the 30's. Glover shoots about 53% from 2 and is about an 83% free throw shooter. He is an efficient scorer and should be trying to score the ball. He is averaging over 19 ppg and that has been going up as the season moves on. He is 3rd in the league in scoring and 2nd in assists. He also has his best games against the best teams on Samford's schedule. In addition, he has become a solid defender. The most important aspect of Glover's game is that he is the team leader. He makes the easy passes and gets the offense moving. He puts the team on his back in close games and Samford has been winning those games. Samford has been beating teams this season that they never beat. They are the surprise of the Southern Conference. Another plus for Glover is his consistent excellence. He does not have bad games. I have given the Ole Miss example many times. The fact that Glover led Samford to a win at Ole Miss by scoring 21 points and playing a great game is ignored by those of you who say he is not an SEC level player even though the Gators lost to Ole Miss on the road. How about the Texas Southern debacle? Appleby scored 3 points, was 0-6 from 3, had no assists and 4 turnovers. In other words, he stunk. Glover doesn't have those kinds of games. Appleby had the Glover type role in his sophomore year at Cleveland State, which played in a weaker conference than the Southern Conference. He had nice stats. However, the team went 10-21 and 5-13 in the conference. Compare that to Samford, which, after going 6-13 last season and 2-9 in the conference, is now 18-9 and 8-7 in the conference and has won 7 of its last 8 games. As an aside, Samford played an OT game on Thursday night and a tough afternoon game on Saturday. I don't know how their schedule was put together, but they have a game tonight against The Citadel. Ques has played 73 minutes in those 2 games. I am hoping that Ques and the Samford team don't hit a wall tonight.
