Gonzaga film room: How Andrew Nembhard is the secret sauce to the Zags' recent run of offensive dominance
St. John’s should notify the ncaa that the strength of its conference opposition is apparently not being calculated in its NET ranking!
I didn’t say he’s not a very good to excellent college point guard. I just find it hard to believe he’s the best or even one of the top 3. Shooting and defending are too important. I think the NBA draft will agree with me. Nonetheless, I hope I’m wrong. I’ve never heard anything bad about his character, so I hope he he blossoms into an NBA starter.
I dont agree a lot with you on your points with Glover, but damn if you are not spot on with your assessment with CMW and PGs. Cheese, AN and even Glover were more PGs then combo guards. Especially Cheese and AN, People can say what they want, but I spoke and knew people on the team and close to AN and he got held back constantly by CMW. AN was a natural PG who had the feel when to push and when to pull back and run an offense. He got tired of being 'managed' on every play basically.
I am talking about college. I think that AN will get drafted in the 2nd round and will play in the NBA next season. I think that his defense has been pretty solid at Gonzaga. He moves his feet well and anticipates well. Gonzaga is the highest scoring team in the nation and has the quickest time per possession of any college team. When AN and Timme are on the court together, the team is scoring 1.51 points per possession in their conference. I don’t think that any of these 3 things would be duplicated by replacing AN with any other college point guard. The article in The Athletic does a great job of explaining what makes Nembhard elite. Are you guys able to read the article or is it blocked?
I just looked at the Palm ratings. St. John’s has moved up to 64. Florida is at 54. Both teams are on the outside looking in for the NCAA tournament. As of right now, the Big East might be getting 7 teams into the tournament and 6 for the SEC. The Big East only has one really poor team in Georgetown while the SEC has a few. We will see what happens in these last few weeks. I have yet to look at the NET ratings.
I can understand people underrating Glover because of how he looked at UF. However, he has been tremendous in a tough mid-major conference, and the team that he quarterbacks has won something like 6 out of its last 7 conference games. The folks who talk about Appleby’s comparable stats at Cleveland State don’t take into account that Cleveland State did terribly in a weak conference while Appleby was running the show there. Glover is similar in some respects to Wendell Green at Auburn, but Glover is more athletic and is a purer point guard. Green is playing quite well for Auburn after transferring from my brother’s alma mater, the fabulous Eastern Kentucky University.
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I agree that he definitely wouldn't have helped with outside shooting, but would be nice to have another true pg. McKissic shot well from 3 last year so have no idea what happened to him this year and he's such a liability from the ft line that you can't have him play at the end of games. It just feels like White hasn't been able to adapt the offense at all this year. If the team can't shoot well, you'd think you can adapt the offense. Why is Felder barely playing when he's fg% is 55.6% and 41.2% from 3? Rebounding has been a major issue for this team, especially defensively and you'd think he can definitely help in this area. You know the game better than me, but it just feels like White has been unable to find a stable rotation that gives them the best chance of winning. All you have to do is double CC and guard Jones tight and where are the points coming from. Maybe its just the personnel, but this is the team White put together. This is the risk you take when you go all out in the transfer portal as opposed to developing players. I know you're a big White supporter and I truly respect your opinion, but forgetting this year, what exactly is the plan going forward? I know that a couple of bigs are coming in next year, but there's always a learning curve for freshman. Has White shown enough that he knows what to do with big men? Does he know how to play big to best utilize the talent that's on the roster or does he only know how to play a guard heavy lineup? Who's playing the point next year? A lot of huge question marks for a coach going into year 8?
I disagree. Glover doesn't shoot many 3's. But he gets into the paint at will and makes 54% of his 2's. He also is a distributor of the ball. It does not stay in his hands very long. The tempo of the offense would dramatically increase. Plus, just watch the 2-minute video I posted the other day of the Samford/VMI game, Glover gets teammates open shots in rhythm and the ball movement that he starts leads to others getting open shots in rhythm. As Eric has shown in stats laid out by him, the shooting percentages go up a lot if the shooter has more time to take the shot. The same thing applies if you get the shot in rhythm. I believe that's one of the reasons that the bottom dropped out of the shooting percentages of Allen, Hudson and others.
i don’t disagree with a lot of what you said. I was just saying that I don’t think how much Glover would have helped any of it. There are a lot of questions next year, including Mike White.
Kind of a weird take. The "other guy" has put this team on his shoulders multiple times against top tier competition. I don't see it as a is/isn't proposition.
Appleby looked like an NBA player yesterday. He and CC won the game for the Gators. However, he can’t make the types of plays he made yesterday on a regular basis.The degree of difficulty is just too high. Tyree has had games this year of 5, 8, 3, 6, 4, 9, 2, 4, 0 and 3. Glover had 9 points against a division 2 school in a game that he didn’t play much. Other than that game, his scoring has been in double figures in every game, and he has scored less than 16 points in only 5 games. He is the driving force behind Samford’s play in almost every game. They have won 7 of their last 8 games and are now 18-9 for the season. They were a bottom of the league team the last few years before Glover’s arrival. Yesterday afternoon, after Samford’s 100-99 overtime win on Thursday night, they played UNC Greensboro. Greensboro plays defense similar to this year’s version of the Gators and uses the clock to keep the score down. They were making life miserable for Ques yesterday, but he went 4-4 from 3, made all his free throws, scored 20 points and led Samford to a 55-49 win over a team that had beaten them the last 10 times they played. It probably is unfair to say that Appleby is not a leader. He just isn’t a point guard. He needs to be in a position where he can make simpler plays.
They're similar players, though, really. Which lightning-quick but mistake-prone PG you take is up to individual preference. But Appleby fits better at this level defensively and as a result I'll take him over Quez.
There's contradiction in Tampa pointing out that White hasn't been able to get the best out of the players we've had (Nembhard being the best example) while simultaneously believing that this team would be fundamentally different with Glover instead of Appleby. We'd probably be marginally worse.
Player.....asst(career)...asst(21-22)...asst/to(per40) Glover......1.8..................4.4.................1.1/1.0 Appleby....4.2..................3.7.................1.4/1.0 Appleby's numbers at FL are similar to Glover's at Samford despite an ocean of difference in level of competition. Career statistics are not even close.
