Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing two, says U.S. official

The USA falsifying intelligence not to go to war would be a nice improvement actually

 

The same occurred to me, but I’m not sure Poland would play along with such a thing. For the moment, I’m prepared to believe it was a Ukrainian interceptor that went astray. My question then is, what are we doing to help the Ukrainians not have any more go astray?

 

I agree that it was most likely a Ukrainian S300 air defense missile gone astray. That being said were it not for Russia's strategy of attacking Ukraine's infrastructure through massive cruise missile, drone and manned aircraft solely for purpose of inflicting pain on Ukrainian civilians because Putin's boys have failed on the battlefield the missile would have never been launched.

 

I don’t get this late date bombardment of the energy grid either. That’s the first thing US forces did in Iraq.

 

I agree, but my answer to that remains the same as above: give Ukraine the means to defend itself against these attacks and do the defense ourselves from the eastern regions of NATO countries.

 

*yawns* just another Ukraine missile stunt ...

Remember when we were supposed to believe that Russia fired a Ukrainian missile, from Ukraine-held territory, onto Ukrainians sympathetic to Russia ?

 

Actually what the US at the beginning of the Iraq wasn't remotely close to what the Russians are doing in Ukraine. The attacks on the Iraqi energy grid were very limited and were based on an actual military objective. There was never a strategy to destroy the energy grid throughout the country for the purpose of inflicting pain on Iraqi civilians
To refresh your memory.
Lights go out in Baghdad as US sends in special forces

Military sources in Qatar said that dozens of British and American special forces teams poured into the city last night after the power went down. In the darkness special forces teams were said to be under instructions to hit key Iraqi military positions and to hunt down potential regime targets. General Richard Myers, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, told reporters: "Central command has not targeted the power grid in Baghdad." But it is understood that before the attack on Baghdad airport last night, coalition forces had considered using the weapon - a bomb loaded with carbon filaments that temporarily short circuit power supplies.​

 

Sounds a lot like what the Russians are doing now. Unless you believe that Russia is committing mass-genocide with expensive precision missiles. And if you believe that, you probably believe that starving Russian troops are eating zoo animals to survive.

 

Really?
Responding to Russian Attacks on Ukraine’s Power Sector

As winter approaches, steady access to energy supply has become a major concern for cities across Ukraine. Since October 10, Russia has attacked Ukraine’s energy infrastructure with waves of missile and drone attacks. Ukrainian officials have reported that this has left up to 40 percent of the power system damaged, with around 30 percent of the country’s power stations destroyed. Attacks on energy infrastructure and generating facilities have occurred throughout the war, but the recent escalation has substantially eroded the power grid’s resilience and operational integrity.​

So you think that's comparable to the attack temporarily disabling of a very small part of the Iraqi grid in and near a single city? And while it may be somewhat of an exaggeration to use the term mass genocide, destroying the power grid in a country in which winter temperatures average around freezing during the winter may be justifiable to you to me it smacks of rather extreme cruelty. It's essentially the infliction of pain with the (most likely futile) intent of destroying the will to support the war among the Ukrainian civilian population.

 

“It's essentially the infliction of pain with the (most likely futile) intent of destroying the will to support the war among the Ukrainian civilian population.”

Hmm, sounds a bit like sanctions on Russia ...

 

While the intent may be similar there is a huge difference between inflicting the relatively minor pain resulting from the sanctions and the pain and potential deaths resulting from cutting off power to a good portion of the civilian population during the winter in a country where temperatures average below freezing. By the way I haven't seen any photos of Russian apartment buildings like the Ukrainian apartment complex in the picture below.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-russian-missile-strikes-city-28207578

 

Because “relatively minor pain” was going to spur Russians to rise up and overthrow Putin ...

Pictured: relatively minor pain inflicted on Iraq ...

 

It sounds like you’re still wrestling with a pig.

 

While I’m not holding my breath, you may be endanger of losing a sheep.

 

Philosophical question: If a troll comments on a thread but there's no one around who hasn't blocked/ignored it, does it make a post?

 

Pretty thorough analysis from Justin Ling, starting with the description of Russian missile stock generally before addressing the Polish issue

Bombs Over Przewodów

 

I have to concede that you're absolutely correct. I should have known better.

 

Ah well, someone showed a little pluck, if only for a second. I get it. You had to report in.

 

Cut him some slack. He stepped out of line.