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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, Oct 27, 2023.

  1. l_boy

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    Seriously bro?

    Jack Kemp was Paul Ryan before there was a Paul Ryan. He’d be considered by MAGA (noun) as a RINO (noun).
     
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  2. UFLawyer

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    and an adjective. Never as a noun.
     
  3. UFLawyer

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    I don’t give a crap what a “MAGA” calls anyone. How is that relevant to my life? I worked on his campaign for President when I was at UF. I met the man. He was a libertarian at heart. I didn’t agree with all of his positions, but he was in the mold of Reagan, and for that he was a much better choice than Bush I.
     
  4. l_boy

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    I am not sure how anyone could support both Jack Kemp and Donald Trump (or Ron DeSantis). They are polar opposites.

    Reagan would be considered RINO in todays MAGA world.
     
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  6. UFLawyer

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    I wouldn’t know. I only supported 1 of them.
     
  7. ursidman

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    This is a fact and well stated.
     
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  8. ursidman

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    There are conservatives on this forum and of national note that use MAGA as a noun and, as it is a convenient shortcut, they all seem to understand what IT is.

    As Mrhansduck said:
    1.
    make America great again
    noun
    2.
    a supporter of a nationalisticpolitical movement in the US
     
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  9. UFLawyer

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    I swear I want to bitch slap some teachers, because they failed you. You were never taught what an acronym is. Also, you don’t seem to understand what a political slogan is. Just because the political slogan has a noun in it, does not make the slogan itself a noun. That is second grade silly. Further, a fact that an urban dictionary created a new word in the last year or two out of an acronym is odd in and of itself.

    But that is why I posted I was shocked to learn that. I think it’s a bastardization of the English language to turn an acronym into a noun. For shits & giggles, I actually looked up the definition in Webster’s dictionary, and here’s what I got


    maga
    noun
    ma·ga
    ˈmägə

    plural -s
    : a member of the priestly caste among the Sauras of India

    I spent a minute searching the Internet for the definition of MAGA which leads me to believe that only one dictionary, the one cited by the poster, (Collins Dictionary), defines MAGA in that manner. I’ve never heard of Collins dictionary, my wife, who is an English major, has also never heard of the Collin’s dictionary. Frankly, I think it’s fake.

    regardless, best case scenario is that it is a brand new word according to Collin’s Dictionary, which stands alone in its birth.
     
  10. mrhansduck

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    The Collins English Dictionary is published by HarperCollins Publishing, which is a major publishing company.

    I would agree if you were simply saying that a word which happens to be an acronym is not always a noun. But when you categorically state without qualification that "[a]n acronym is not a noun," you seem to be going much further and perhaps arguing that an acronym is never a noun - as if they're inherently contradictory or mutually exclusive designations? If so, I disagree with that. Maybe we have an English major on here who can help us sort this out.

    The word LASER, for example, is an acronym for "light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation." The word "laser" can be used as a noun. According to Merriam Webster, which I'll use here since you mentioned it, nouns make up the largest class of words and refer to a thing, a person, an animal, a place, a quality, an idea, or even an action. Merriam Webster gives the example of the gerund "yodeling" for an action word that is used as a noun.

    The exact same word (and/or versions thereof) can be considered different parts of speech depending on the use and context. There was a very clever clip going around years ago explaining the many ways that the F word and its variants can be used in the English language (noun, verb, adjective, etc). Another acronym (which happens to incorporate the F word) is "FUBAR." If someone said a situation is FUBAR, we would understand that as an adjective since it's describing the situation. Merriam Webster notes that FUBAR can also be used as a transitive verb.
     
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    This site had better trolls on it in the late 90s than the one man clown show happening here.
     
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  12. ursidman

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    WRONG. You’re a
    aggressively angry about word usage. Call a help line or Maybe get some better fitting shorts.
     
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    very good post, and I don’t have a lot that I can disagree with you here. I will say, however, the nuance that I’m discussing, which you seem to be glossing over, is an acronym is an acronym. Certainly an acronym can morph into a noun, such as laser, a very good example that you use. But the acronym for which laser was created is a thing. It is a beam of light. That is a noun. That is much different than MAGA. MAGA is a campaign slogan. Make America great again can never be a noun. There is no set of circumstances in which that term will ever be a noun.

    and to demonstrate this, the poster who referenced this newfound dictionary, uses the term with a completely different definition. in other words, when you use the word laser as a noun, you are referring to what the acronym actually stands for. That’s not what the alleged noun definition of MAGA is. the noun version of MAGA is not “make America great again”.

    So in actuality, it has no relationship whatsoever to Donald Trump’s campaign slogan. it is a wholly new word. it appears to be a slang word to describe people who vote for Trump, but honestly, I don’t know because I’ve never heard it used by anyone in a sentence that makes any sense to me. I certainly have never heard anyone use it verbally. The only time I’ve ever seen it is on this message board.

    it’s an interesting topic for me, at least. I know some people on this message board may find it silly. Also, I’m still trying to figure out if the word MAGA as a noun is intended to be derogatory. I’ve asked this a few times on here, and nobody has responded to that query.

    does anybody not want to make America Great again? I’m not really sure how it could be derogatory, other than trying to associate it with Trump. Maybe somebody wants to speak up on this. Speaking only for myself, I’m proud to state that I would love America to be great again, regardless of Trump. Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s going to happen.
     
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    Lol. I literally have zero real anger towards anyone or anything…. And I rarely wear shorts or pants.
     
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  16. l_boy

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    eewe