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Roe v Wade Overturned

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 24, 2022.

  1. l_boy

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    Yeah but free Palestine. Genocide Joe.
     
  2. gatorpa

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    The crux of EMTALA is that an ER must evaluate and stabilize any emergency medical condition to the best ability of the facility if they can’t do so they must stabilize and transfer to a facility who can to the best of their ability.
    An ectopic pregnancy would typically fall into this category however an elective(although perhaps needed) D&C may not it would really depend on the details(which is where this sad situation started).
     
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    There's currently a case under consideration by the Supreme Court, Idaho v. United States, in which the Court will, in effect, decide whether a state law banning virtually all abortions takes precedence over EMTALA. The Biden Administration is taking the position that EMTALA should take precedence, the State of Idaho is taking the opposite position.
     
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  4. philnotfil

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    For those who believe these laws allow doctors to do what is medically necessary for their patients, the lawyers for Idaho explicitly said that they could not say that this was 100% true.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    I would add that not only did the State's ban not protect the fetus who had virtually not possibility of survival it resulted in damage to the woman's reproductive system to the point in which she may have been rendered infertile and incapable of having any children in the future. Maybe it's just me but I do not consider the state's poorly drafted law to be "pro-life".
     
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  6. GatorJMDZ

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    Well, this went well..
     
  7. tampagtr

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    Part of a speech also advocating his fierce pro-Life positions and condemnation of Biden

     
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  8. gatorpa

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    If you look up thread I discussed some of the specifics based on the articles, the issue that caused her to lose an ovary and tube was due to an incomplete D&C. That had nothing to do with the law in place. It was exacerbated by what appears to be incompetence and lack of proper follow-up care by her doctor when she presented with retained products of conception and fever. It seems to have little to do with the law.
     
  9. philnotfil

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    If she had been able to have the procedure with her doctor instead of traveling all over to find anyone willing to do the procedure, could the results have been different?
     
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  10. gatorpa

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    It is a risk with D&C, the suspect thing based on the article is the doctor (unclear if it was a ON/GYN) seemingly missed symptoms which put retained POC at the top of the differential. It was noted she had fever which gives one a high index of suspicion. Based on the info in the article the liability is with the doctor who saw her then and seemingly missed a big one.

    Having to travel all over has little to do with the initial procedure. It seems like she called all over until she found someone to do it. As a side note often fetal demise are treated with watchful waiting letting nature take its course. Doing the procedure introduces more risk so it’s not always done unless some has an incomplete abortion(natures way).
    Most D&C are done electively as an outpatient. There are few instances where one is done urgently or emergently.
    This is something I dealt with in the ER two decades.

    Foe the record I’m not in favor of these strict laws regarding abortion, but it appears they are using an unfortunate incident to blame a law where it appears the issue was really with questionable care from her doctor.

    This is based only on the details in the story for the record.
     
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  11. PITBOSS

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    He tells women graduates they’ve been told “diabolical lies” and encouraged them to be “homemakers”, claims Biden is a baby murderer, and gays are in sin. And he states we have “degenerative cultural values” that stem from “pervasiveness of disorder”.
    If you agree or disagree, why does a college have a nfl kicker give such a negative, judgmental & political speech?
     
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  12. tampagtr

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    And yet if he faces a backlash, he will claim victimization as a Christian.

    Scott Norwood has nothing on him as a "wide right" kicker
     
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  13. citygator

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    His name is Harry Butker?

    Tone deaf speech where told women to get into the kitchen and quoted “his teammates girlfriend’ as he put it Taylor Swift… who no doubt supports his Handmaiden Tale speech. Benedictine College though.
     
  14. tampagtr

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    Yea, select audience, which would suggest there shouldn’t be blowback. But I assume he knows he was being recorded. And I don’t know how that speech would land, even there. I thought I knew the far right Catholic colleges and that language seemed a little out there, even for them. Not even sure you would hear that at Ave Maria or Steubenville. Maybe at Wyoming Catholic College.

    Didn’t have Benedictine on that internal far right list. Looking them up on Wikipedia, they do not seem to have that Ad Majorem GOP Gloriam mindset the others do. Wonder how that landed there.

    They have at least one prominent female alumnus that might take exception. Wangari Maathai. Who knows?

    Looking at his Wikipedia page, he has been making such statements for years, with public response. This one may have gotten more national response because of the Taylor mention

    Harrison Butker - Wikipedia
     
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  15. tampagtr

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    Ron Filipowski tweeted (with profanity, so I won’t post), that Butker’s mom is a renowned physicist that helped allow his career choice, but he still says women should only be housewives
     
  16. swampbabe

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    Here’s a post with no profanity
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  17. tampagtr

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    Obviously the world would be a better place if she had never worked outside the home and fulfilled her true vocation and not been taken in by the lies
     
  18. tampagtr

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    Told my wife about this. She says he has "mommy issues".
     
  19. GatorJMDZ

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    LOL, the dumbass left out the entire "barefoot and pregnant" strategy to ensure a successful marriage.
     
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