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Roe v Wade Overturned

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 24, 2022.

  1. GatorJMDZ

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    The 2022 law is apparently being construed to limit abortions and not create a right to one.
     
  2. tampagtr

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    Some shocking stats and admissions from yesterday’s EMTALA arguments and Idaho’s legal regimen generally

    Idaho has set its own standard of care,” he added.

    Justice Amy Coney Barrett accused the Idaho lawyer of “hedging” and said she was “surprised” that Turner wasn’t 100% sure that a doctor could provide lifesaving care to a woman experiencing pregnancy complications, if the treatment required abortion.

    She said that she was under the impression that physicians could act as needed. “That is the nature of prosecutorial discretion,” Turner told her.


    Credit for candor - in Idaho, the life of a women is subservient to her role as vessel, and the Supremacy Clause does not apply. It’s the new coverture.

    And OBGYNs are not welcome!

    Nearly a quarter of Idaho’s practicing obstetricians left the state between August 2022 and November 2023, with 58 physicians leaving the state, according to data compiled by the Idaho Physician Well-Being Action Collaborative. Only two obstetricians moved to the state during that same time period. Idaho has no OBGYN residency programs, so the state must rely on recruitment from out-of-state hospitals to bolster its workforce, and this is becoming increasingly difficult.

    Next they will outlaw epidurals during childbirth as the Idaho standard of care unless the woman can prove she is truly not the daughter of Eve and leads a pure life in subservience to her husband. It is decreed in Genesis that childbirth shall be painful as the penalty for women’s naturally deceptive nature. It must be so.

    Court hears abortion case
    Court hears abortion case - Tampa Bay Times
     
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  3. gatorchamps960608

    gatorchamps960608 GC Hall of Fame

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    Alito is just a giant POS. He was questioning lawyers yesterday about why doctors should have to give medical care including a possible abortion to women in states with strict abortion laws.

    After all, they are just chattel slaves for the use of men and their lives individually don't matter much otherwise, right?
     
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  4. tampagtr

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    Sadly funny. To be cross posted

     
  5. sierragator

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    The scotus can take the chicken shit way out by taking their sweet time to tell us what we already know: the potus is not above the law. By doing that they are in effect giving him blanket immunity, if he wins in November. It is increasingly likely that the only trial that will be completed before the election is the hush money trial that is happening now.
     
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  6. tampagtr

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    No words

     
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  7. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

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    Thanks, I needed a good laugh today. smdh
     
  8. tampagtr

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    Ouch. The Onion

     
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  9. philnotfil

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    States With Abortion Bans See Continued Decrease in U.S. MD Senior Residency Applicants

    A 2023 analysis by the AAMC Research and Action Institute found that fewer new graduates of U.S. medical schools applied to residency programs in states that banned or restricted access to abortion than to residency programs in states where abortion remained legal. That analysis was performed after the U.S. Supreme Court issued its decision on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organizationin June 2022, immediately prior to the submission of residency applications through the Electronic Residency Application Service® (ERAS®) for the 2022-2023 application cycle. The ERAS program is a centralized online application service created and maintained by the AAMC as a resource for applicants, program directors, designated institutional officials, and deans of medical schools. The following analysis is an update of the 2023 data snapshot, Training Location Preferences of U.S. Medical School Graduates Post Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health.

    The new data analysis finds continued reductions in applicants to residency programs located in states with abortion bans two years after the Dobbs decision (during the 2023-2024 application cycle). As of April 1, 2024, 14 stateshave enacted full bans on abortion (up from 13 in 20231 ). Because these policy decisions appear to affect where physicians plan to practice, state governments and health care leaders need to consider the potential impact of those decisions on the physician workforce. This analysis examines residency applicant and application data by separating states into three cohorts: those with abortion bans, those with gestational limits, and those without gestational limits or abortion bans. While the number of unique medical school graduates, referred to as “U.S. MD seniors,” who applied to residency programs declined slightly in 2023-2024 from the previous application cycle, states with complete abortion bans saw greater decreases in the number of U.S. MD senior applicants than states with gestational limits or no restrictions. Continued disproportionate decreases in the number of applicants to programs in states with limits or restrictions were observed across all specialties in aggregate.


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    The implications of fewer applicants across specialties applying to programs in states with abortion bans has been discussed extensively since June 2022.5 6 7 8 9 Nationally, the total number of MD, DO, and IMG residency applicants continues to exceed the number of training slots available; residency programs in states with complete abortion bans continue to fill their residency positions. However, this additional year of findings suggests that the continued decreased interest of U.S. MD seniors in training in states with abortion bans or restrictions may negatively affect access to care in those states; any impact will likely first affect communities who already have limited access to care (such as rural, lower socioeconomic, and marginalized racial and ethnic groups).
     
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  10. tampagtr

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    Under His eye


     
  11. GatorJMDZ

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    She should start a database of nutjobs so we know where she is at all times.

    Good luck getting your proposed bill passed, Katie.
     
  12. tampagtr

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    Won’t need Congressional legislation next year. There will a righteous agency official tracking menstrual cycles
     
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  16. philnotfil

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    Tennessee woman denied abortion after fetus’ ‘brain not attached’ slams ban

    A Tennessee woman who was denied an abortion despite a fatal abnormality says the state’s anti-abortion laws resulted in her losing an ovary, a fallopian tube and her hopes for a large family.

    “The state of Tennessee took my fertility from me,” Breanna Cecil, 34, told The Independent. She added that state lawmakers “took away my opportunity to have a family like my own biological family because of these horrible laws that they put in place.”

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    Then, 12 weeks pregnant, Ms Cecil was getting her first ultrasound. She attended the appointment alone, so when the doctor told her the fetus was not viable outside the womb, she was left with only asking the doctor what she should do.

    However, she was left with few options. The state’s near-total abortion ban prevents anyone from getting an abortion if there is still a heartbeat - which her fetus still had. The law makes no exceptions for fatal conditions and also criminalizes physicians who perform the procedure outside of the allowed exceptions.
     
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  17. gatorpa

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    If the stories are accurate those are flat out EMTALA violations.
    FWIW malpractice doesn’t cover that and both the facility and the “caregiver” can be fined 10k per incident. It can be more if a pattern is seen.
     
  18. gatorpa

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    Just for clarity she did end up getting the needed abortion however it appears whoever did it botched the job and left tissue which then caused the issue that necessitated the removal of the ovary and tube. The article notes she followed up and was “given antibiotics” by her doctor, without knowing all the details that seems like someone didn’t do a good job. Retained POC is top of the list for a women post recent D&C with fever.
    Tennessee didn’t cause the issue, two poor visits to doctors did. Retained POC does happen with D&c and I don’t know that in and of itself would be consider malpractice buy you can bet the provider will be named.
     
  19. gator_lawyer

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    There's a Supreme Court case right now where a state is arguing that EMTALA doesn't stop it from prohibiting abortions.
     
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