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Roe v Wade Overturned

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  1. WarDamnGator

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    62% of Arizonians want to keep abortion safe and legal, but a slim majority of 31 Republicans in their State House know what’s best for them….
     
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  2. WarDamnGator

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    BTW, on Monday’s show Jon Stewart showed how some of the AZ GOP have changed their tunes. Lake, for example, is now calling for a repeal, but he found a clip of her giddy about Roe being overturned and even citing the old law by its statute number and glad it would end all abortion in AZ…

    Edit, here’s a video… it’s MSNBC, not my favorite source, but they use her own words and clips…

     
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  3. l_boy

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    Terrible news for the women of AZ but good news for Biden and 2024 prospects in a key swing state. Also Lake is alienating both sides so that doesn’t help their cause either.
     
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  4. philnotfil

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    Emergency rooms refused to treat pregnant women, leaving one to miscarry in a lobby restroom

    One woman miscarried in the restroom lobby of a Texas emergency room as front desk staff refused to admit her. Another woman learned that her fetus had no heartbeat at a Florida hospital, the day after a security guard turned her away from the facility. And in North Carolina, a woman gave birth in a car after an emergency room couldn’t offer an ultrasound. The baby later died.

    Complaints that pregnant women were turned away from U.S. emergency rooms spiked in 2022 after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, federal documents obtained by The Associated Press reveal.

    The cases raise alarms about the state of emergency pregnancy care in the U.S., especially in states that enacted strict abortion laws and sparked confusion around the treatment doctors can provide.

    “It is shocking, it’s absolutely shocking,” said Amelia Huntsberger, an OB/GYN in Oregon. “It is appalling that someone would show up to an emergency room and not receive care -- this is inconceivable.”
     
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  5. sierragator

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    Way to go GOP! that'll show em!
     
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  6. ajoseph

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    Meanwhile, the Sun-Sentinel published the latest poll conducted by FAU (I think) that has the abortion amendment failing by a large margin (the recreational pot amendment is likewise to fail by a large margin).
    AND SO GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!
     
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  7. docspor

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    votes > Babies
     
  8. swampbabe

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    I saw that poll done by Emerson Colllege and dug a bit deeper. MOE was +/- 3 but their methodology was using landlines. I’m suspicious of those numbers.
     
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  9. philnotfil

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    If you aren't sure why doctors are leaving Idaho, it's because you're not listening to them • Idaho Capital Sun

    If you aren’t sure why doctors are leaving Idaho at this point, it’s because you are not listening to them.

    Perhaps you missed an early informal survey from the Idaho Coalition for Safe Healthcare showing 75 of 117 physicians surveyed in Idaho answered “yes” or “maybe” when asked if they were considering leaving the state. Seventy-three of 75 respondents cited Idaho’s restrictive abortion laws as the reason.

    Maybe you didn’t know that Dr. Lauren Miller told CNN that her greatest fear was “being tried as a felon simply for saving someone’s life.” Dr. Miller is a maternal fetal medicine physician, a high risk pregnancy doctor, who previously lived and worked in Boise. She now practices medicine in Colorado.

    Perhaps you didn’t see the survey showing that 22% of practicing obstetricians have left the state since the abortion bans took effect according to a report by the Idaho Physician Well-Being Action Collaborative.
     
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  10. VAg8r1

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    Actually the poll showed that while 49% of the respondents supported the amendment only 19% were opposed, the balance were undecided.
    Respondents were also asked about Amendment 4 that would allow a woman to seek an abortion up to 24 weeks or before fetal viability. Forty-nine percent of respondents were in support of the ballot initiative. Nineteen percent of respondents were in opposition, while 32 percent did not know whether they supported or opposed the amendment.​
    https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/april2024flapoll
    These are the results from another poll:
    Most Floridians oppose a 6-week abortion ban. A majority of Florida registered voters say they would vote to expand access to abortion via the November 2024 ballot measure.
    • More than half (55%) of Floridians say they oppose a national 6-week abortion ban, and just 23% say they support it.
    • That said, sixty-four percent of Floridians say they are familiar with the Florida Supreme Court allowing a six-week abortion ban to go into effect.
    • Further, just a bare majority (50%) say they are familiar with the Florida Supreme Court allowing a 2024 ballot measure to add legal abortion protections to the Florida constitution.
    • When asked about the 2024 Florida ballot measure that would make abortion legal up until fetal viability, 57% of registered voters in Florida say they would vote in favor of abortion legality and 36% say they would vote against it. Just 6% say they are unsure.
    https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/nearly-...avor-expanding-abortion-access-ballot-measure
     
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  11. swampbabe

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    Apologies to @ajoseph. I was referencing another poll cited by the Sun Sentinel last week. FAU also did a poll with similar numbers. In the article they did mention the methodology used by FAU:

    The survey used text messages to reach registered voters who responded to a link to complete the survey online and used automated phone calls to reach other voters. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points for the full survey of Democrats, Republicans and independents. The margin of error for smaller groups, such as Republicans or Democrats, or men and women, is higher because the sample sizes are smaller.
     
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  12. ajoseph

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    All I know is that the results were a bit alarming, and a fresh wake-up call that this will need every vote to get it passed (same for recreational pot). The general view that I’ve heard was that these amendments would easily pass; not so. And maybe that was the whole purpose of the poll— get awareness that this is going to be a tough race.
     
  13. gatorchamps960608

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    The pot one for sure and I believe the abortion one too is going to bring out all kinds of wildcard voters that have never and will never be polled. There's a strong chance these voters throw the state into uncharted waters with their other votes.
     
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  14. GatorJMDZ

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    Great news. Nevada's Supreme Court just approved an abortion rights initiative to be on Nevada's November, 2024 ballot.
     
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    Powerful ad

     
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  16. sierragator

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    This is what the gop wants.
     
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  18. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Not smart.
     
  19. oragator1

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    Why?
    They have a 2022 law behind it that bans abortion after 15 weeks that would then take precedence, and is much more in line with the state view on the subject. Takes heat off of the pubs, the Dems can still yell about restrictions. Everyone wins politically.
     
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  20. okeechobee

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    Sorry. It's smart, comparatively.
     
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