I think this is a great Republican motto. "Vote for us, ladies. We're not quite as bad as the Taliban!"
Your humor is noted lol, bit I mean Taliban references are so far off the mark. I disagree woth some of these strict interpretations or abortion laws btw, just far from Taibanesque.
...and aborted babies would give evertthing they have, to be so much as women under Taliban rule. I mean...they'd get to LIVE!
Really? I think your ignorance is showing. 80% of suicides are by women in Afghanistan and they are committing it at a rate of 1 to 2 every day. That's what you want for them? To live and then kill themselves solely because you want to advance your agenda? That's very selfish, yet not surprising.
^^^@ the cmon mans: Y'all actually suggesting it's better to be exterminated than to be a woman under the Taliban?
Me thinks though doth miss the point. But funny that his post bothers you, but the ones calling a pro life position the Taliban does not.
Not in the case presented in post #1339. Try to imagine you and a spouse with that "choice" legally removed from you.
When I throw out Taliban references they are deliberate. It is reflective of how I view certain pro life stances on this particular issue. The desire for individuals, based upon their religious beliefs, to force their beliefs on my family and others, at significant consequence, life long impacts and loss of bodily automony, is so abhorrent to me that it is hard to put into words. My characterizing it as Taliban like behavior is my best attempt to convey how extremely offensive I find such views. It falls in the same level of offensiveness to female genital mutilation and possibly more offensive than requiring women to cover their faces due to religious beliefs.
Completely off topic, I had the pleasure of hearing Marcus Luttrell speak. He is the real Lone Survivor from the book and the movie. He crawled for miles with a broken leg and back, drank his own urine to stay hydrated and watched three of his friends get killed by the Taliban. He then got captured by the Taliban. He discussed in detail the death of his friends, but could not discuss what the Taliban did to him. I personally will never compare anything to the Taliban after that story, and apologize as that is very off topic.
Putting abortion aside for a second, I was just thinking about your specific question. I think it's hard to know how any of us would feel or respond in such an extreme situation. I imagine if we were sold off or pawned off and forced to have sex (be raped), lose our freedoms, etc., it might be analogous to a lifetime in a bad prison. I'm not sure how many of us would take suicide off the table in that situation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/02/22/pregnant-woman-fetus-jail-roe/ A few months after becoming pregnant, Natalia Harrell sat in a corrections van without air conditioning, according to a recent petition in Florida’s appellate courts. It was more than 100 degrees inside the van, the petition says, and a Miami-Dade County jail employee opened a door only after hearing Harrell banging against the walls. Harrell, 24, has been jailed without bond since July, when she was accused of fatally shooting another woman and charged with second-degree murder. She was six weeks pregnant at the time and, now eight months along, says the jail staff has endangered the fetus by refusing proper prenatal care and putting her in situations like the incident in the inmate transport van. The allegations are part of a writ of habeas corpus Harrell’s attorney filed last week in Florida’s Third District Court of Appeal. While habeas corpus filings typically allege that a person is being illegally detained, Harrell’s lawyer has instead argued that it is Harrell’s fetus who is being improperly jailed, as first reported by the Miami Herald. The petition by attorney William M. Norris says the “unborn child” is innocent and should be discharged from jail so it can receive proper care. That would require Harrell to be released until the child is born, the writ argues.
The great Governor Roy Cooper has protected the rights of the marginalized in this state since 2017. I am worried about the sustainability of how moderate North Carolina is in a sea of red states in retrograde. This state continues to be 1% more Republican than Democrat overall and 60% legislatively Republican due to the worst gerrymandering in America.
And how would you know what an aborted baby wants? Besides the fetal brain hasn’t developed enough to even take control of even a few body functions until the second trimester. So a fetus doesn’t have the ability to know it’s even alive.
Good point although it's virtually impossible to have a rational discussion of the subject of abortion with people who as a matter of faith consider a zygote immediately following conception a form of human life the same as third term fetus, a baby after birth or an adult human being.
South Carolina’s new tagline “we are so pro life we’ll kill ya!”. South Carolina becomes the latest GOP-led state with a bill to make the death penalty a punishment for abortion South Carolina is the latest GOP-led state to propose a bill that would make the death penalty a punishment for abortion. State Rep. Rob Harris introduced the South Carolina Prenatal Equal Protection Act of 2023last week, which could make getting an abortion the same as committing homicide. The bill had been prefiled in December and is now sits in the Judiciary Committee. "What I did the other day is I took the opportunity while the rest of the house was dealing with H. 3774, Human Life Protection Act, a different bill, I put the first amendment on that bill when we were processing it on the floor and I tried to amend it to basically strike the whole thing and replace it with my bill," Harris told WBTW.
Seems that if one is prolife and logically consistent they would agree with Mr. Morris that Ms. Harrell should be released immediately since her innocent unborn child cannot be released unless she is also released from custody.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/living/health-fitness/article273303190.html Bonner General Health, the only hospital in Sandpoint, announced Friday that it will no longer provide obstetrical services to the city of more than 9,000 people, meaning patients will have to drive 46 miles for labor and delivery care. The hospital’s board of directors and senior leadership called the decision emotional and difficult, and cited a loss of pediatricians, changing demographics and Idaho’s legal and political climate around health care as the reasons.