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Roe v Wade Overturned

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  1. gator_lawyer

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    Please educate me: what text in Plessy prohibited integration?
     
  2. l_boy

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    We all understand that the decision doesn’t explicitly prohibit abortions, but in effect allows the state governments to ban abortion which many already have.

    So what point are you trying to make?
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    I have an even better one for @LTG61. Let's say that the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment doesn't protect an individual right to own or possess a firearm. Instead, it protects only a collective right. And then, the Supreme Court threw it back to the states to allow them to choose whether or not to ban private ownership of firearms within their jurisdictions.

    Would it be inaccurate to call that an "anti-gun opinion" because the Supreme Court isn't prohibiting the ownership of firearms? (We both know the answer.)
     
  4. LTG61

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    Let's stop sparring, shall we? Bringing up Plessy is a diversion.

    You said Dobbs is 100% anti-abortion. That statement is patently incorrect, because multiple states currently allow abortion, and those State laws were not struck down by Dobbs. If anything, they were affirmed by it.

    I trust that you have read the decision in its entirety. Were there text in Dobbs that prohibited abortion, you would have quoted it already.

    For now, you'll just have to live with it - as was done with Roe.
     
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  5. LTG61

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    In your example, at least SCOTUS was addressing something actually written in the Constitution.

    That is the issue, isn't it? Abortion isn't in the Constitution, so all you've got is hypothetical. Sorry, it doesn't work like that.
     
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  6. gator_lawyer

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    In other words, I'm 100% right that you'd call it an anti-gun opinion (because it would be), and you're now trying to deflect by arguing that Dobbs is correctly decided, which is irrelevant to the point here. Have the integrity to own being wrong. The hypocrisy is unbecoming.
     
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    I've shared this with others over the years:
    I had a miscarriage in 2010. I had zero say over my own body & nearly bled to death over a cluster of cells w/a heartbeat in a Catholic-run hospital. It was disgusting how the nurses & doctors treated the situation.

    Months earlier, I found I was pregnant, went to PP to get it taken care of early, and was told that it was benign; No procedure was needed because "the preganancy had terminated itself, and all that was left was a gestational sac." They were wrong, I just went too early.

    A few months later, I went back about my normal life partying, working outside in the winter, taking anti-depressants, etc. I had gotten my period, but it was super light and only lasted a day or two each month.

    Then, in late December, I got my period, and it was very heavy. I started to bleed uncontrollably. The pain was white-hot. I called my mom, let her know what had happened, and said that I might have a uterine infection. Since I was under my parents insurance at the time, I let her know I was going to call my GP and figure out what's happening


    Read the rest at the link above
     
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    Lol, I bet her husband breathed a sigh of relief
     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    Republicans are cruel and evil.

    Abortion for *lethal* fetal anomalies is now *illegal* in Ohio

    I’m a high-risk obstetrician here. I diagnose birth defects

    So some point soon I may look someone in the eyes & say that they, against their will, will carry to term, undergo delivery & then have their child die
     
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    Here comes the state level chaos...

     
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    Cute pic and she is almost certainly well beyond the 20th week (probably closer to the 30th week) which represents around 1.4% of abortions, virtually all of which are performed based on medical necessity.
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    For those that can't see it here's the picture. Woman protesting outside a campus church in Louisiana confronted by male from the church.

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    So apparently a 14 year old doxxed the justices. Not in the main news but it is around. Addresses, IP addresses, social security numbers, credit card numbers (they had to cancel the cards). Someone used Kavanaugh's to buy Roblox. Others made Planned Parenthood donations in their names.

    Too far? Why? It's not like privacy is a thing.
     
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    Excerpt

    "ANA: Basically, the doctor looked at me and was like, well, the baby's underdeveloped. Even with the best NICU care in the world, they're not going to survive.

    MCCAMMON: And as painful as it was to hear that, the doctors told Ana there was another urgent concern.

    ANA: You're at a high chance of going septic or bleeding out, and unfortunately, we recommend termination, but we cannot provide you one here in Texas because of this law.

    MCCAMMON: In her situation, Ana's doctor says a patient would normally be offered a few options - wait and watch for signs of danger or terminate the pregnancy. She says termination would be safest and most likely to preserve Ana's future fertility. But under Texas law, abortions are only allowed at that stage for severe medical emergencies, defined as when a patient is, quote, "in danger of death or a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily function." Ana's doctor asked us not to use her name because she worries about frivolous lawsuits in the current environment."
     
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    For those that can't see it. Neuroscientist taking his team out of Utah for the safety of the female employees due to the law that kicked in in Utah.

    A small example of skilled, intelligent labor leaving states for their safety and the safety of others in their lives. Will that abandon the states to deep red? Probably. Will it wreck their economy further because millions of dollars in payroll, etc, will go elsewhere? Yep.
     
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