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Roe v Wade Overturned

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 24, 2022.

  1. PITBOSS

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    Right or wrong, this ruling will generally impact the very poor. Those that don’t have means to travel to a abortion state therefor more babies born into poverty. The upcoming 2023 congress will be a repub/maga majority. What will they think of the poor and their children born into poverty?
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    Not until the blessed release of eternity, where your posts will be invisible, or I figure out how the mute button works. Either way.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    That is unfortunate for you.

    Off to the herd you go…
     
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  4. sierragator

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    I think we already know the answer to that question.
     
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  5. l_boy

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    no the electoral college is how we elect presidents. In key swing states there were enough people voting for Klein or Nader that could have easily swung the election the other way. Perhaps Democrats are not smart enough to understand the electoral college.
     
  6. wgbgator

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    More cheap labor to exploit in our capitalist hellhole or people to lock up in our prison industrial complex
     
  7. ajoseph

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    I would recommend reading the Dissent, where the Justices brilliantly point out the hypocrisy of the decision, and the chauvinism of the rationale. Alito reasoned that the drafters of the 14th Amendment did not intend to include abortion as a liberty (a right which Thomas now claims exists only in our fairy tale minds). The Dissent hammered back. That would make sense, because the drafters and the voters were exclusively men. Women, who had no voice in 1868, had no rights. And thus, the reasoning here is that because the 14th Amendment gave only men rights, it makes sense that women should continue to be deprived of such rights 150 years later.
     
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  8. Orange_and_Bluke

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  9. ajoseph

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    I wonder how many people of the families of women dying trying to get an abortion think otherwise?
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    Just because the state won't require that women wear the hijab doesn't mean that it won't be imposing the official state religious norms on women not unlike Iran, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan under the Taliban. By the way the KSA actually has a more liberal standard than that of a number of US states in the near future.
     
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  11. PITBOSS

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    Interesting the demographics of how people self-identify on abortion.

    Overall, those that are “pro-choice” make up the majority. 55%-39%.

    Pro-choice was a stronger majority amongst women. 61%-33%

    The largest “pro-life” group appears to be older white men.


    'Pro-Choice' or 'Pro-Life' Demographic Table
     
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  12. l_boy

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    No I’m pretty sure Roberts would have swing the other way, like he had in the leaked draft. As Chief Justice he is big on court legacy and prefers incremental decisions. But now that it was guaranteed to go the other way, he probably didn’t want it to look close as a 5-4, plus that may be more where his meanings are anyway.

    I lost a lot of respect for him signing on with the 5 other extremists.
     
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  13. officelife

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    You’re a person that wrote about how you discriminating against others based on their race. You showed no remorse for those words and claimed it was natural. New users have a right to know what you represent, so they can decide how they want to interact with you.

    Lol... For most people this issue became personal the moment you claimed you discriminate against them or their family based on their skin color....
     
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  14. ajoseph

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    And just like that, DeSantis jumps in today to say Florida will “expand pro life protections”.
     
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  15. PerSeGator

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    Clever lawyering aside, the reality is they did perjure themselves.

    Although none of them affirmatively promised that they would preserve Roe, each and every one of them did claim they would review the case with a fair and open mind and had not prejudged the outcome.

    But they didn't. Not even close. We know it, they know it. They made their decision decades ago, but sat in front of Congress and claimed they hadn't.

    It's perjury, plain and simple.
     
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  16. VAg8r1

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    Containers with thousands of the "most innocent" otherwise called frozen human embryos.
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  17. mdgator05

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    Missouri just signed a complete ban as well.

     
  18. ajoseph

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    But at least his reasoning was not extreme. I thought his logic was sound, even if I disagreed with the end result. When you read Kavanuagh’s concurrence, he was grossly inconsistent and his reasoning based on hypocrisy. Thomas said that there is no such thing as substantive due process and he would like the opportunity to reverse the protections on gay marriage, contraception and interracial marriage (which is understandable given who he is married to - what a way to avoid alimony!!!)
     
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    Romney is working on a Family Security Act.
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    You will never be happy without being able to not only live by your own ideals but use government to force everybody else to live by your ideals too. And that is a bit sad.
     
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