Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Religious councilman destroys argument for putting the ten command,ents in a classroom

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jan 23, 2024.

  1. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

    22,316
    5,324
    3,488
    Apr 3, 2007
    Lots of respect to this guy, he seems to live his faith the way anyone can respect.

     
    • Winner Winner x 10
    • Like Like x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  2. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    15,765
    5,464
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    That's James Talarico. He's a Democratic state rep.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  3. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,420
    1,744
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    A grad school buddy was a hardcore evangelical. He was also a REAL conservative. He got a job in Indiana across the river from Louisville & joined a big church there. He insta fought the church's attempt to keep an anti sodomy law in KY. Dude walked the walk.
     
  4. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    17,990
    1,428
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    Sorry. But we need to see the entire exchange and the text of the Bill being discussed.

    There were a few flags in the splicing that tells me there is a lot more to this story.

    If this lady was trying to push a bill through to require schools and classrooms post “The Ten Commandments” then the guy is 100% spot on. That would be unconstitutional and in violation of the Establishment of Religion.

    But if this is about the freedom of the teacher to post “The Ten Commandments” or have a “Rainbow Flag” fly as the guy brought up. Then he is just putting on a ridiculous show.

    Do you have a link to the bill so we can read it? The guy might be right. But I have my money on this is just a show.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,420
    1,744
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    do you have google? Lordy! Oh, & "we" do not.

    https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/pdf/SB01515I.pdf
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
  6. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    17,990
    1,428
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    • Funny Funny x 1
  7. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    17,990
    1,428
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    The guy was right. That is an unconstitutional bill imo.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  8. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,420
    1,744
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    far from it. having fun trying to learn a Thundercat bass line, drinking a Focal Banger & still can find a bill in 13.2 secs. ok, as pic-ed, drinking flor de cana too.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2024
    • Like Like x 1
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  9. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    17,990
    1,428
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    You are better and faster than I. I did not care enough to research it with the lack of context from the OP. That said. In this case the OP was spot on it appears.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  10. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    17,990
    1,428
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    I am jealous on this one…Favorite Beer is a New England Double Hazy!

    Enjoy and create some good work!
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  11. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    17,990
    1,428
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    If I ever see this guy on the shelf I will have to buy now!
     
  12. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,420
    1,744
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    super hard to get outside of vermont. a little dist here brings it in as well as heady topper....imo, the best 2 ipas in the world.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    17,990
    1,428
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    The best are always the small local breweries! I will do the bigger guys for ease. But whenever we travel I try to bring home a local Hazy. Bonus if double. We were just in Boone and the wife only likes 12 ounce cans which can be hard for Hazy’s at a local brewery to find. But Blowing Rock Brewing Company had Cloud Rise in 12 oz cans. Brought home 12 (but letting the wife enjoy them)….

    Cloud Rise Hazy IPA - Blowing Rock Brewing Company - Untappd
     
  14. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    17,990
    1,428
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    May have to make a trip to Vermont now…
     
  15. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,420
    1,744
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    give me an address. I'll send you some.
     
  16. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

    14,284
    6,263
    3,353
    Dec 11, 2009
    He absolutely crushed it.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
  17. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,420
    1,744
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010

    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 6
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  18. lacuna

    lacuna The Conscience of Too Hot Moderator VIP Member

    63,267
    3,676
    2,353
    Apr 8, 2007
    Redlands, Colorado
    Thanks, Yes, tons of respect for this guy. Amen, Amen, Amen
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. lacuna

    lacuna The Conscience of Too Hot Moderator VIP Member

    63,267
    3,676
    2,353
    Apr 8, 2007
    Redlands, Colorado
    He's deeply religious and a Democrat. Representative and aspiring preacher James Talarico hadn’t planned to deliver a sermon when he went to work at the state capitol that morning. The one featured in the video clip up thread.

    Less than a week later Talarico went viral again for calling out Texas lawmakers after a mass shooting in Allen, Texas, that left eight dead. “There is something profoundly cynical about asking God to solve a problem that we’re not willing to solve ourselves,” he said on the house floor.



    He’s Deeply Religious and a Democrat. He Might Be the Next Big Thing in Texas Politics.

    “The thing that warms my heart the most,” he told me, “is people who say, ‘I’m an atheist, agnostic, or I left the church or I left religion. But this is the kind of Christianity I can believe in.’”

    On a Monday morning this spring, a little more than a mile from the hulking Texas Capitol, Talarico was literally navigating the divide between church and state as he steered his 2016 Chevy Colorado pickup into a parking space on the serene, live oak-dotted campus of Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary. It was just past 8 a.m., and he was late for his weekly New Testament class, one of two seminary classes he took this past semester. Last August (2022), he enrolled in seminary to get his Master of Divinity — which, with any luck, he’ll receive in 2025 in order to become a pastor, right around the time he might begin to look at running for governor in 2026.

    Religion and politics have always been intertwined for Talarico. He grew up the son of a single mother going to St. Andrew’s Presbyterian, a church that the Rev. Jim Rigby had turned into something of a refuge for progressive Christians in Austin. Rigby began ordaining gay and lesbian clergy in the 1990s, and, as a result, was put on trial by the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) denomination. Rigby remains Talarico’s pastor and encouraged him to pursue seminary. He even invited Talarico to deliver his first sermon at the church last fall. Talarico chose the subject of abortion — not exactly a topic you’d expect a pastor to tackle. “Did they teach you in Sunday school that Jesus Christ himself was a radical feminist,” he asked the parishioners that day.

    But seminary, he told me, is giving him a new and deeper vocabulary to think about changing Texas, and ammunition to fight the culture wars by quoting the same scripture his Republican opponents do — all with a pastoral smile, and as he puts it, deeper knowledge of the stories that reveal essential truths about the human condition.
    _________________________

    This young man has a future as a uniter, a peacemaker, and a progressive Christian pastor. If I lived in his Texas district he would have my vote, I think. He's most certainly in my radar.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  20. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    86,653
    25,970
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    Why are morals (The Ten Commandments) from a higher power considered religious? It was a prophet that brought these words to humanity (written by GOD) not some religious cleric. It predates Christianity and has nothing to do with religion, but it has everything to do with morality... morality is NOT exclusively religious in nature.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2024
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1