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Records show someone in the trump WH was in a lot of pain used a lot of stimulants & couldn’t sleep

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ursidman, Jan 27, 2024.

  1. ursidman

    ursidman VIP Member

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    Thousands of Ambien pills and 7 orders of Morphine, Ketamine, and Fentanyl and 2,500 Provigil pills (stimulant) in only 9 months.

    In the old days before better drugs were developed I used Ketamine on animals and there is nothing in their reactions to that drug I observed that would I want to experience.

    OTOH it is a possible explanation for some bizarre late night tweets. Covfefe y’all.
     
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  2. gator7_5

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    Wouldn't we need to see other admins history to compare? Really strange without some comps. I mean, this can't be for one person and I imagine there's a pretty large staff in the WH.
     
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  3. ursidman

    ursidman VIP Member

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    Yeah, lots of people work there. Not sure how many can use that service and if I were a staffer with ambitions to remain in government service those are some drugs I would definitely get on my own at Walgreens
     
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  4. tripsright

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    Yep. Without context/comparison to other administrations, this is meaningless.
     
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  5. Trickster

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    I'm interested in the provenance of that "document".
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    I would think if this was a wide range of staffers using it, you would see a lot more standard prescriptions. Blood pressure, cholesterol, antibiotics, etc. This seems to be all heavily addictive pain meds, uppers, downers, and sleeping pills.
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    Same. While it may be an actual record at this point I'm not convinced that's authentic.
     
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  8. orangeblue_coop

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    The person who used these substances is the same unhinged person who was up late firing off tweets at 4AM
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    While it's off-topic this is book written by the Krassensteins.
    upload_2024-1-27_18-15-41.jpeg
     
  10. gator7_5

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    Yeah, looks like completely fake news.
     
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  11. ursidman

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    The Original Report by IG of DOD started after a 2018 complaint:
    https://media.defense.gov/2024/Jan/09/2003373440/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2024-044_REDACTED SECURE.PDF

    Unable to cut and paste but the findings say there was "inadequate oversight" and the pharmaceutical unit was "subject to prescribing errors and "inadequent medication management"

    It goes on to say that records of opioids and other controlled substances were not properly kept, records were handwritten, contained strikethroughs and did not properly authenticate patient identity.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    While the Krassensteins have a sketchy history they also broke a major news story:
    In October 2018, the Krassensteins were the first to report on a smear campaign alleging sexual assault against special counsel Robert Mueller.[43] The scheme was perpetrated by political operative Jacob Wohl and radio host Jack Burkman. The Krassensteins also tipped off Mueller about the allegations, and Mueller referred the scheme to the FBI for investigation.[44][45] The Krassensteins connected Wohl to a company called Surefire Intelligence, which allegedly perpetrated the scheme and which allegedly made a threatening phone call to the Krassensteins.[46]
    Robert Mueller hoax: How Jacob Wohl created a sexual harassment plot
    How We Busted Smear Artist Jacob Wohl
     
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  13. ursidman

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    p 14 of the IG's report
     
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  14. okeechobee

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    Hitler was known to use amphetamines and barbiturates regularly. I don't see what the big deal is here.
     
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  15. gatordavisl

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    Y'all think Donald was using those meds? Pfft . . . this was Melania for sure. How else could one cope with being wed to such a thing?
     
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  16. Trickster

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    Is that little devil in Trump's head Bannon?
     
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  18. demosthenes

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    If we’re doing this solely to see which administrations are worse or some kind of one-upmanship between parties, sure. That really misses the mark though. Setting aside HIPAA considerations, I think it’s much more important to understand if various leaders in any administration are impaired and how it may affect running our country.
     
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  19. Gator515151

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    I'll call a big bull shit on this one.
    Thousands of Ambien in a 9 month period?
    I take Ambien and I can tell you there is not a doctor on the planet that is going to give you more than one a day.
    Shit I have posted here some of the stupid things I do when I wake up in the middle of the night after taking my ambien.
     
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  20. demosthenes

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    You could be completely right. Or maybe the Whitehouse has the ability to “stock up” and this isn’t out of the ordinary. Pretty hard to tell much from this one document.
     
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