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Rashida Tlaibb votes present rather than condemn rape as weapon of war

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by docspor, Feb 14, 2024.

  1. mdgator05

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    They admit it.

    Exclusive: Paul Manafort admits he passed Trump campaign data to a suspected Russian asset

    They wouldn't. The issue is that you are falsely conflating Trump with a "stronger America" outcome.

    That isn't English.

    That is a pretty big leap there.
     
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  2. uftaipan

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    Yes, it is. What is not disingenuous is framing her as someone who pointedly ignores that Hamas went into southern Israel with orders to its rank and file to “dirty up” as many of their women as possible.
     
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  3. g8trdoc

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    OK Manfort admitted to passing something along but what? No one really knows. In any case Trump didn't do it himself. It's perplexing you'd think that we are better of now that four years ago. The economy was better, inflation much lower, no Ukraine war, no Israeli conflict, no major border influx etc. Trump's major mistake was picking a fight with the media.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Private polling data. This is what he instructed his deputy to give them.

    No, just his campaign manager, the person in charge of his campaign. So it can only be said that his campaign colluded with Russia.

    In what way? You have to be very specific because, if you ask for 3 years and 11 months ago, nobody would say the economy was better at that point. Regardless, we currently have an exceptionally low unemployment rate, years of real wage growth, years of capital value growth (both in terms of real estate and stock market), years of Real GDP growth, etc.

    There was a huge surge in border crossing in 2019 and early 2020. And there were plenty of other conflicts in the world during Trump's time.
     
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  5. sierragator

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    The whole thing just serves to illustrate that as a species, we have not come as far as we all would prefer to believe.
     
  6. G8trGr8t

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    none so blind as those that refuse to see.

    Ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort admits sharing info with Russians | The Independent (the-independent.com)

    Paul Manafort, the chairman of former president Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign, has admitted sharing confidential campaign polling data with a suspected Russian intelligence officer at the same time Moscow was interfering in the 2016 election on Mr Trump’s behalf.

    In an interview with Insider, Mr Manafort — who was later convicted of tax evasion but received a pardon from the ex-president — said he shared the data, which the Department of the Treasury described as “sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy”, with suspected Russian intelligence officer Konstantin Kilimnik in hopes of financial gain for himself, not to aid Russia’s efforts to help Mr Trump defeat Hillary Clinton.

    "The data that I shared with him was a combination of public information and stuff for the spring that was — it was old,” said Mr Manafort, whose claim is at odds with what he told his former deputy, Rick Gates, in an email seized by federal investigators during the Justice Department’s probe into whether the Trump campaign had ties to Russia’s pro-Trump interference efforts.


    Manafort Owns Up to Passing Campaign Data to Suspected Russian Agent (thedailybeast.com)

    U.S. says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016 | PBS NewsHour
     
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  7. surfn1080

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    Ya only republicans bend the knee.. such a joke this country political system has become. This 2 party system is becoming a disaster.
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    The inability to compromise is making it a disaster. MAGA controlling a formerly great party is the overwhelming majority of the problem. More concerned with pushing division than anything else. Obama helped start it with his denigration of the then pub party but Trump amplified it 100x. The immigration bill that the dems agreed to is more restrictive than ever yet the house won't consider it because Trump wants to cause problems for the country. If he could crash our eeconomy to get back in office he would throw that switch tonight wwith no concern how it would impact millions and you know it
     
  9. GCNumber7

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    She is protecting the brand.
     
  10. okeechobee

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    I'd say it was picking a fight with the establishment, but it was only a mistake if he doesn't win in November. If he wins, he will have effectively served as president for 12 years, as he will undo everything Biden did with the possible lone exception of Brown Jackson on the SCOTUS.
     
  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    becoming?
     
  12. defensewinschampionships

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    The illusion of two parties is the real disaster.
     
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  13. enviroGator

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    Anyone who voted for Trump needs to be sent to Russia.
     
  14. citygator

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    Charlotte
    You two can take that up with her. She doesnt like Israel one bit, and that isnt lost on anyone. As far as a thread suggesting she approves of rape as a weapon, it is still disingenuous.
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    Speaking only for myself, I never suggested that she approved of rape as weapon or for that matter the other atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7, 2023. While I think that the Israeli response reached the point that the civilian casualties have become unacceptable, Tlaib probably thinks that any military response would have been unacceptable and she has yet to condemn Hamas for using Palestinian civilians as human shields, also a war crime.
     
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  16. Gatorrick22

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    I agree with that promise, but these given points puts elected officials on record about how they feel about these injustices.
     
  17. BigCypressGator1981

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    Not really.
     
  18. surfn1080

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    How was the bill that allowed 5k crossings a day and gave Biden the power to override it whenever restrictive?
     
  19. VAg8r1

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    And unless the Constitution is amended to replace the Electoral College system of electing a president the 2-party system will be locked in stone.
     
  20. G8trGr8t

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    That was one just component of the immigration language in the bill. Can you tell me what the rest were?