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Puzzled- Major Stadium Upgracde, Poor NIL Money

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by PlantationGator, Dec 7, 2023.

  1. Crusher

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    The only option would be to deck the Eastside and those wouldn’t be premium seats anyway. It doesn’t seem like that is the direction our UAA is consudering.
     
  2. paidinfull

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    Tamu was definitely not bowled all the way in prior to their reno. At least one end of the stadium had a row of hs bleachers under the scoreboard, and like you said and I already mentioned they nearly demolished their whole stadium to do what they did. They also added a ton of premium seating when they did it, which is the ultimate goal with our renovation. What they did would probably cost over a billion to do today. I’m not sure we could really do what they did either because of the historic buildings surrounding and attached to the stadium. Fans would lose their minds if we did it too, though they’re going to lose their minds no matter what is done.

    I’m not familiar with all the other ones you mentioned, but I am familiar with TAMU.
     
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  3. paidinfull

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    More than a few hundred empty seats at the last few games i attended. Likely missing close to the amount they’re talking about removing.
     
  4. atlmover

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    All except one?
     
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  5. paidinfull

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    He wasn’t talking about me either. :monkey::ninja3:
     
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  6. atlmover

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    Jerry Jones makes a healthy profit from paying his players.... totally different than boosters paying NIL.
     
  7. Wanne15

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    you don’t think the school makes a healthy profit?
     
  8. atlmover

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    He was comparing Jerry Jones who pays players to play for him to NIL supporters. They are totally different. One person is making money directly from his players one person is paying NIL money for players to play on team that they do not earn money from.
     
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  9. Gatorrick22

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    In Gainesville only? New codes that we have to adhere to... straight from Tallahassee? Yeah... that makes sense.
     
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  10. 31g8r

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    I agree but it is disingenuous to say the current sections at the upper level SE corner is where the bulk of the seats is coming from. My post was pretty specific. Expect a power bowl remake with chair backs. Rough estimate,of 1 new seat to 1.25-1.3 old seats you can do the math 20k new seats equals 26k old seats. Net loss of 6K.

    They are probably saying that the reduced demand will leave extra seats for the displaced current seat residents. At a much less desirable location no good for a swap and probable increase in price or same price worse location.

    It gets worse when you account for the displaced seat holders because of aisle widening. I don’t know the dimension of the new aisle but even 1 seat for 90 rows is a minimum of another 1k lost. Factor in widened seats for the remaining bleachers at 1 new bleacher equals 1.1 old seat for 40k is another 4k lost. There is 11k less seats not to mention a mid-stadium ring to traverse and the numbers add up quickly. Either way the result is going to be upset fans with moderate seniority losing out to price increases and less desirable seats potentially.
     
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  11. 31g8r

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    LOL if you want here is some math and I was conservative with the range. My post was pretty specific. Expect a lower bowl remake with chair backs. Rough estimate of 1 new seat to 1.25-1.3 old seats you can do the math 20k new seats equals 26k old seats. Net loss of 6K.

    They are probably saying that the reduced demand will leave extra seats for the displaced current seat residents. At a much less desirable location no good for a swap and probable increase in price or same price worse location.

    It gets worse when you account for the displaced seat holders because of aisle widening. I don’t know the dimension of the new aisle but even 1 seat for 90 rows is a minimum of another 1k lost. Factor in widened seats for the remaining bleachers at 1 new bleacher equals 1.1 old seat for 40k is another 4k lost. There is 11k less seats not to mention a mid-stadium ring to traverse and the numbers add up quickly. Either way the result is going to be upset fans with moderateseniority losing out to price increases and less desirable seats potentially.
     
  12. 31g8r

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    Not even in the prelim choices.
     
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  13. 31g8r

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    tell me how to share the 59 page facilities document from aug 2021 listing the 5 scenarios and time lines worst case was 7800+ reduction east and west stands plus 3400 NEZ you do the math

    the file is too big to copy the pdf
     
  14. Gatorrick22

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    We shall see if we can "improve" The historic Swamp. I hope you are right about all this. But the timing of it all ($400 million) is getting shredded on the internet.

    I know I will not be happy even if we only lose 500 in seating capacity.

    I also think having a swimming pool less that 1,000 feet from a football stadium should be a code and safety violation.
     
  15. 31g8r

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    You are missing the point the renovations will have minimal impact on visitors seating except the rows behind the bench and those are in demand. Asking some gator fan to relocate to the less desired location isn’t a going to be well received and the are discussing moving the visitors section to the NE corner near our new band location.
     
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  16. 31g8r

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    You are living in an alternate universe with the 500 number you need close to 3x that just to widen the aisles
     
  17. Gatorrick22

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    I know what you mean, but there is also a huge difference between repairs and renovations. Let's hope these renovations work out, but I don't trust the people in power to know just how important the optics of all this... and the cost... and the lost seating really is to the purists of The Swamp and it's historical value is.

    I say move the damned swimming pool next to the stadium becasue The Swamp has been there longer and it has far more historical significance than that pool of water does.

    Laugh all you want. I just hope we're not making a huge reduction in seating.
     
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  18. paidinfull

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    If that’s the case, you’re going to be unhappy, but I think we all knew that.
     
  19. Gatorrick22

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    Your argument is digressing... stay on the subject matter.
     
  20. paidinfull

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    I would say that’s a relevant question. You have a bigger problem with this than any other person I’ve seen. Do you go to all the games? Your comments about how many empty seats there are make me think you don’t go very often.
     
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