Prediction >>> Right-wing provocateurs will show up at the Democratic Convention next week

Many many Palestinians are pro-Hamas (Iran funded). The ones that are not still hate Israel. They were raised to hate the Jews. They had no issue with the slaughter of 1,700 Jews on Oct. 8. They celebrated it.

 

What?

 

I couldn’t have been more clear. We had a portion of our population who thought we should leave Germany alone and mind our own business, then later protested the area bombing of German cities. I’ll bet no one came to their defense with the whole “No, they’re just pro-German, not pro-Nazi.”

You need to remember something. I have seen the October 7th footage that has been hidden from public eyes. Not just the documentation of what the IDF found in the kibbutzim but also the captured video that Hamas took while it was raping, murdering, and pillaging. And I remember the cries for a “ceasefire” that were coming from the pro-Hamas members of our Congress, like Tlaib, while Hamas was still conducting its barbarous acts in southern Israel. I’m sure sorry that innocent people get killed in a war that Hamas demanded be put on its own people. And I would like nothing better than for Hamas to surrender and spare the civilians any more suffering. If you really support the Arab civilians living in Gaza, then demand Hamas’ surrender, not for Israel to stop its just campaign against that disgusting cabal.

Back to the subject, the people you need worry about causing chaos at the Convention are not the phantom white supremacists. It’s the people supporting the strategic ends of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and all kinds of savory characters like them.

 

So your theory, in all seriousness, is that the rioting, looting, burning, beatings, etc that occurred in 2020 was triggered by “right wingers” who mingled in the “mostly peaceful” protests and got the violence going? Just to be clear, you aren’t trying to be cute or funny with that?

 

You are making the assumption that there won’t be pro Hamas protesters there. I didn’t say all “pro Palestinian” people are pro Hamas. It seems to me highly plausible that both will be there, and of the two, the ones that feel strongly enough to protest may be more likely pro Hamas.

As to your second statement you have created a new rule of war that war cannot be prosecuted if collateral damage is involved. You have the right to your own beliefs but that has never been a rule of war since the beginning of history.

look at this article:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pr...-dnc-hoping-harris-will-hear-them-2024-08-16/

Pro-Palestinian activists resent Biden's administration for funding Israel during its waragainst Hamas, which has killed around 40,000 Palestinians in Gaza, according to Gaza health officials

Vast majority of Americans back Israel over Hamas: Poll

20% of Americans support Hamas

Gen Z support for Hamas grows

43% of Gen Z support Hamas

I’m ready to accept your apology now.

 

I guess you believe anytime there is a “peaceful” protests that become riots it’s due to undercover right wingers starting the violence.

That’s about as bad as the people who think it was all due to BLM infiltration that Jan 6th happened the way it did..

 

Isn’t that kind of like dismissing Jan 6 because 95% of the people at the capital were peaceful?

 

Yeah, sorry, don’t think so. I’m a full-time member of the California Army National Guard, and I was wholly involved with civil disturbance operations in 2020. It’s the opposite of what you just wrote. Things were far worse than what you saw on TV.

 

The accusation was Antifa, not BLM, but your point is spot on. The January 6 rioters were wholly responsible for their own transgressions. It was not the fault of any “infiltration.” The same is true of the 2020 riots.

 

I don't think so, given that so many of the J6 nerds were breaking the law by trespassing. Another quibble I have (and not related to your post) is that the '20 protests were not political, though so many righties want to imagine they were. J6 was obviously a political riot.

 

Do you think the shopkeepers whose stores were burned out or looted cared that the perpetrators were not political? Did it bring comfort to the families of the murder victims to know the killers were not political?

 

That's nothing to do with my contention, which is that many righties love to point out the 20 protests as some kinda dem/lib fest; they were not. So to answer your question, no the shop owners didn't care about the political nature of the destruction because it was NOT political.

 

That is pretty apples-to-oranges. Some of the 5% of non-peaceful demonstrations were likely defined as such by far less than 5% of its participants. You are comparing a 100% violent demonstration (in the sense that there was one demonstration on Jan. 6 that was not peaceful) against many protests, 95% of which were peaceful, according to that stat.

 

If the protests weren't political, what were they trying to accomplish? Isn't the point of any protest(political or otherwise) to bring about change? "Defund the police" sounds, to me, like a change that would need to be enacted politically.

 

This just goes to show how easy it is to manipulate statistics. Here's CNN using @phatGator 's definition of "mostly peaceful."


But do a web search for "mostly peaceful protests" and you will also find CNN touting your definition. I think either definition is, arguably, valid but it needs to be applied across the board.

 

2020 riots stands as the most expensive in insurance history. 1.5B! Also, more than 900 law enforcement officers were injured! The only ppl saying it was mostly peaceful are delusional left wingers that watch msnbc.