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Bazza · Sep 6, 2024

tommyvee said: ↑

Team takes the demeanor of their coach. This game was really important to Billy and word was he was all business all week and the team came out playing tight. Need to have fun and play loose. It’s football. It’s a game. It should be fun.
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100%.

There's a real art to maintaining the right demeanor.....yet retaining a loose enough personality that no one can see you are nervous and uptight.

I'm just not seeing it....sorry......

kryptonite · Sep 6, 2024

Bazza said: ↑

Was watching his demeanor as the team came out of the tunnel and thought he seemed very unsure of himself then. Nervous....anxious, etc. I'm no expert in body language mind you - so just an observation of mine at the time.
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He has always told us he knows about this team what we don't know.

gatorpa · Sep 6, 2024

wci347 said: ↑

I don’t know if you listened to the commentary during the game, but what was pointed out and what was so extraordinary about Ward is that he beat us in second gear of about 7.
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I was at the game and hence didn’t listen to the comments. .

We will see how his season shapes up. I’ll be here all season.

tommyvee · Sep 6, 2024

Bazza said: ↑

100%.

There's a real art to maintaining the right demeanor.....yet retaining a loose enough personality that no one can see you are nervous and uptight.

I'm just not seeing it....sorry......
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It hasn’t translated yet to P5/4 wins right now for sure.

Gatorrick22 · Sep 6, 2024

northgagator said: ↑

Mertz really sucked at that game Completed 18 out of 26 pass attempt, 1 int, 2 TD's, and 239 yards. Did that int cost the Gators that game? Or was it the Gator D giving up 331 passing yards and a total of 508 yards?

Nice way of slanting the passing stats in the LSU game. Why didn't say "Daniel passed for 372 yards and Merts passed for 311. Looks like both QB's had a hot night.
You also left out that LSU had 701 of total offense versus the Gators 488 yards (which is still respectable).

As for the fumbles, As bad as the Gator pass protection was last season, there could of been more fumbles. Mertz was whacked like a pinanta doll.

Again, did Mertz cost the Gators that game or was it the Gator Defense that gave up 700 yards of total offense?

Note: Had the Gator Defense shown up for that game and reversed that lost, you probably would not of included the LSU game in your response.

Jefferson is a duel threat QB in that he can pass and run for good numbers.
Mertz is basically a pocket QB and when he runs with the ball, it is most like due to not having any pass blocking.

Again, another slanted and unfair comparison.
1, Georgia has two football lines (offense and defense). On the other hand Florida did not have neither to brag about.
2, Did you really expect a pocket QB with the inept O-line to run for notable yards against the UGA Defense?
3, As I recall Beck played the whole game and Mertz played about three quarters. He left that game early due to breaking a collar bone on a 15 yard running play to get a first down. Do you think that Mertz could of ended up with positive rushing yards if the Gators had a real O-line and he had not been injured?

So the way you put it:
1, The Gator O-line was not to blame for last season woes. It all goes on Mertz.
2, You do not have any problems with Napiers game planning and play calling.
3, That Mertz should of won player of the year with all of the negative factors that you do not consider.
4, That Mertz should of won the Miami game even when the Gator O-line did not show up to play, and that Miami knew what play was going to be called.
5, Mertz getting outplayed in 4 out of 5 of his last games? First of all, QB's do not win games by themselves. It takes the Offense and a Defense units to win games.

In the South Carolina game Mertz had 423 yards and 3 TD's to 313 yards, 4 TD's and 1 INT. The nod here goes to Mertz.

The UGA won that game with a total team effort on offense and defense.

The Arkansas game saw both QB's with good stats and with Mertz edging out Jefferson.

The LSU game saw both QB's and Offensives having a good game. However, even with Mertz's 311 yards of passing, the LSU Offense really feasted on the Gator D to the tune of 700 yards.

The Missouri game saw both teams with 500 yards of total offense. Yes the Missouri QB had more passing yards, 311 to 239. However the Gators had a great night running the ball 261 yards. Also both teams average 7.6 yards per game.

So you want to play the what if game? How about this, What if the Gators had an O-line that could block and not just produce a running back with 100 plus yards per game but a QB doing the same thing.

The O and B game that you watched was the same Gators that you saw last Saturday.

Thos six loses were not just on the QB. As I recall the Gator Defense had a very bad year. They finished at or near 75th in the rankings.

Lagway was the number 1 QB in highschool last year. He did not play a down last in college football. Lagway has only played 1 quarter of college football this year. The way you are talking, I am getting the impression that he should of won the Miami game.

Also, Lagway will be playing with the same O-line, the same Napier scheme and play calling, and the same defense we saw last Saturday.

I am not saying that Lagway sucks. I hope that he does not get hurt and that he will shine.

I believe that my reply shows otherwise.
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The defensive corodinator and the choice of a pocket QB was all on Napier. The problems were all Napier's choices that he made... from the very beginning. We can split hairs about players making plays and play-calls... or even player personnel, but it all comes down to the head ball coach in the end.

His coaching staff... his players... his team... his record.

wci347 · Sep 7, 2024

northgagator said: ↑

Mertz really sucked at that game Completed 18 out of 26 pass attempt, 1 int, 2 TD's, and 239 yards. Did that int cost the Gators that game? Or was it the Gator D giving up 331 passing yards and a total of 508 yards?

Nice way of slanting the passing stats in the LSU game. Why didn't say "Daniel passed for 372 yards and Merts passed for 311. Looks like both QB's had a hot night.
You also left out that LSU had 701 of total offense versus the Gators 488 yards (which is still respectable).

As for the fumbles, As bad as the Gator pass protection was last season, there could of been more fumbles. Mertz was whacked like a pinanta doll.

Again, did Mertz cost the Gators that game or was it the Gator Defense that gave up 700 yards of total offense?

Note: Had the Gator Defense shown up for that game and reversed that lost, you probably would not of included the LSU game in your response.

Jefferson is a duel threat QB in that he can pass and run for good numbers.
Mertz is basically a pocket QB and when he runs with the ball, it is most like due to not having any pass blocking.

Again, another slanted and unfair comparison.
1, Georgia has two football lines (offense and defense). On the other hand Florida did not have neither to brag about.
2, Did you really expect a pocket QB with the inept O-line to run for notable yards against the UGA Defense?
3, As I recall Beck played the whole game and Mertz played about three quarters. He left that game early due to breaking a collar bone on a 15 yard running play to get a first down. Do you think that Mertz could of ended up with positive rushing yards if the Gators had a real O-line and he had not been injured?

So the way you put it:
1, The Gator O-line was not to blame for last season woes. It all goes on Mertz.
2, You do not have any problems with Napiers game planning and play calling.
3, That Mertz should of won player of the year with all of the negative factors that you do not consider.
4, That Mertz should of won the Miami game even when the Gator O-line did not show up to play, and that Miami knew what play was going to be called.
5, Mertz getting outplayed in 4 out of 5 of his last games? First of all, QB's do not win games by themselves. It takes the Offense and a Defense units to win games.

In the South Carolina game Mertz had 423 yards and 3 TD's to 313 yards, 4 TD's and 1 INT. The nod here goes to Mertz.

The UGA won that game with a total team effort on offense and defense.

The Arkansas game saw both QB's with good stats and with Mertz edging out Jefferson.

The LSU game saw both QB's and Offensives having a good game. However, even with Mertz's 311 yards of passing, the LSU Offense really feasted on the Gator D to the tune of 700 yards.

The Missouri game saw both teams with 500 yards of total offense. Yes the Missouri QB had more passing yards, 311 to 239. However the Gators had a great night running the ball 261 yards. Also both teams average 7.6 yards per game.

So you want to play the what if game? How about this, What if the Gators had an O-line that could block and not just produce a running back with 100 plus yards per game but a QB doing the same thing.

The O and B game that you watched was the same Gators that you saw last Saturday.

Thos six loses were not just on the QB. As I recall the Gator Defense had a very bad year. They finished at or near 75th in the rankings.

Lagway was the number 1 QB in highschool last year. He did not play a down last in college football. Lagway has only played 1 quarter of college football this year. The way you are talking, I am getting the impression that he should of won the Miami game.

Also, Lagway will be playing with the same O-line, the same Napier scheme and play calling, and the same defense we saw last Saturday.

I am not saying that Lagway sucks. I hope that he does not get hurt and that he will shine.

I believe that my reply shows otherwise.
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There is a reason why the QB position is the most important in the NFL and in college. My simple point is that everything revolves around a QB’s performance. All players play better with a top notch signal caller and top signal callers draw talent to the program.

How many players committed to Florida because of MERTZ?? ZERO!

How many of the scholarship players were inspired by his grit, hustle, never say die, and clutch performances? ZERO.

We can argue stats as much as we want. I have established with clear and convincing evidence that in games against Miami, Missouri, UGA, LSU, and Arkansas Mertz was outplayed.

You say that QBs don’t win games by themselves and you are absolutely right.

However, if you reverse the performances of the QBs in those last 5 games, we probably win at least two or three of them.

Arkansas, LSU, and Miami’s outcomes would have very possibly been different if the numbers their QB put up were Merrz’s numbers. The same is true for all the stats in those games if they are reversed, but once again EVERYTHING is spearheaded by the QB’s level of play and the confidence the players have in him.

16 out of the last 20 Heisman Trophy winners were QBs. 17 out of the last 20 NFL MVPs were QBs.

Without a Heisman caliber level QB, Tebow, Wuerffel, Spurrier, Leak, and Trask we are wasting our time playing football END OF STORY!!

northgagator · Sep 7, 2024

wci347 said: ↑

There is a reason why the QB position is the most important in the NFL and in college. My simple point is that everything revolves around a QB’s performance. All players play better with a top notch signal caller and top signal callers draw talent to the program.
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I would repost the rest of your rant, but the reader on this forum need a break from your vitrol, lunacy, ignorance, and most of all, your very disrespectful comments about Mertz. You really went below the belt on that part of your rant.

By way, as for me, you are the "end of the story". I am putting you on ignore.

wargunfan · Sep 7, 2024

After two games opposing teams are averaging scoring fifty points on the Gator defense. Florida potentially could win against UCF, Kentucky and FSU, the rest are probable losses. That means a 4-8 record and no bowl game. That means the 2025 class is in the toilet and portal losses as well. Can BN survive all that. I doubt it. In the meantime I have found much more interesting things to do on Saturdays.

MarineG8R · Sep 7, 2024

wargunfan said: ↑

After two games opposing teams are averaging scoring fifty points on the Gator defense. Florida potentially could win against UCF, Kentucky and FSU, the rest are probable losses. That means a 4-8 record and no bowl game. That means the 2025 class is in the toilet and portal losses as well. Can BN survive all that. I doubt it. In the meantime I have found much more interesting things to do on Saturdays.
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Not to be a dick, but I am one….

Soooooo why are you posting here? Just thought we should know you got better things to do?

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