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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by cron78, Jul 1, 2024.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    No.
     
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  2. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

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    So then in reality you chose a cognitively impaired Dem over a moderate Pub.

    Party over country.
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    The Republicans in the courts are destroying this country. They just handed Trump broad immunity. They've been dismantling democratic protections. They're making it impossible for Democratic Presidents to enforce the policy agenda that the people elected them to implement. Romney wouldn't govern like Trump, but he'd appoint the same sort of racist, anti-democratic shitheads to the courts that Trump did. So my choice is easy. I pick Biden because of judges. Why? It's what's best for the country.
     
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  4. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

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    From what I read they didn’t give Trump “broad” immunity.

    Please give me some specifics on these racist judges…
     
  5. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    What you read was wrong.

    EDIT: I recommend reading this thread from a law professor at the University of Texas if you want to appreciate just how extreme (in a very bad way) the Trump immunity ruling is:

    Could point to any number of the FedSoc'ers who have spent years intentionally watering down the Equal Protection Clause as it pertains to anti-Black racism while wielding it against efforts to strive for genuine equality.

    We live in a world where intentionally gerrymandering Black people because they're Black is legal if you do it for political gain (Alexander), while it is illegal for an investment fund started by Black women to give grants to other Black women to compensate for the fact that traditional funders give almost no money to Black women entrepreneurs (something like 0.5% of venture capital investments go to Black founders). Why? Because FedSoc "judges" say so.

    In Republican "judge" world, white people are the "real" victims of racism.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    Yes
     
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  7. tilly

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    I took that as meaning voters/posters, but if not then you are sadly correct.
     
  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    I’d stay home for sure. And that’s even with an activist conservative Supreme Court considered.
     
  9. phatGator

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    Yes. I heard Romney speak at a rally in 2012 and was very impressed.
     
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  10. VAg8r1

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    Yes I would although realistically the virtually no way that the Republican Party of today would nominate a Mitt Romney. Unlike Trump Romney would respect the 250 year old legacy of the United States as a Constitutional Republic, he wouldn't try to destroy the career civil service, he would select advisors and cabinet officers based on competence rather than solely on loyalty and although his judicial nominees would be conservative they wouldn't be the extreme and frequently unqualified ideologues like those nominated by Trump, Aileen Cannon and Matthew Kacsmaryk coming immediately to mind. Unlike Trump in the area of foreign policy Romney wouldn't kowtow to Vladimir Putin and sellout Ukraine, a virtual certainly if Trump is elected.
     
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  11. murphree_hall

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    Too much is being made over this cognitive decline. He is still able to execute the duties of his office and I like the results that he’s achieved over his Presidency. Even if, as some suggest, he’s not pulling the strings, it doesn’t matter because he has the right advisory team in place to accomplish goals that his voters sent him to office for. Why should someone vote for a “sharper” candidate who doesn’t stand for what they believe in?

    I’d argue that is choosing appearance over substance.
     
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  12. ajoseph

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    I can’t see how he ever pulls out of the worldwide perception that he isn’t fit to be President. Every excuse he’s made (sick, jet-lagged, tired) only reinforce the narrative that is literally too aged to handle 4 more years. That he is not being told this — loudly, authoritatively, and firmly — is itself tragic.
     
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  13. ajoseph

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    Reading this and the reference to “honest media,” leads me to ask you: Do you really believe that Roe v Wade stands for the principle for babies to be executed at birth, like Trump boasted at the debate, and echoed throughout right wing media?
     
  14. ajoseph

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    In a heartbeat!!
     
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    I knew he was old, and I know that a man at that age would have a difficult time bearing the 24/7 stress of the presidency. But I didn’t expect to see the catastrophe of that debate — where despite every answer by Trump being a lie, the only takeaway was that Biden should be in bed resting until his next meal.
     
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  16. citygator

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    If Biden is my only choice he'll get my vote, but I wont be happy about it. I said the same back in 2020 when he was my 5th ranked choice. His administration has done very well and I give him credit for it but the debate exposed the gap between his reasoning skills and his speech delivery skills. That feels important to me. Trump could have come out on stage and shot someone without losing a vote and I suspect Biden coming out and shooting himself wont cost many votes.
     
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  17. gatorpa

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    He could barely string together multiple cogent sentences numerous times in the debate. Did you not watch any of it?

    We aren’t talking appearances we are talking functional capacity.
     
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  18. murphree_hall

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    Debating is not a part of the President’s day to day duties. It’s largely unimportant after the campaign season. Also, Trump sat there and lied for two hours straight, and gave terrible answers. Why are we only focusing on Biden?
     
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  19. gatorpa

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    The discussion is on Biden because for the last year the left has gone overboard saying he’s great cognitively. I didn’t realize speaking in short sentences that make sense even to a 3rd grader was something he needed to practice day to day.

    Trump was typical Trump so his performance wasn’t a shock at all. He was even a bit more mellow than I expected. I think he figured he would just let Biden ramble on and do himself in.

    Asking for a friend how did we defeat medicare? What the hell was he trying to say.
     
  20. GatorJMDZ

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    But you trust Trump? Backwards Day in your alternative universe?