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POLL: Conference(s) For scUM and the Holes?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ETGator, Aug 6, 2023.

What Conference do you think the Holes and scUM will end up in?

  1. Both in the SEC

    4.1%
  2. Both in the BIG Whatever

    12.2%
  3. The Holes in the Big Whatever and scUM elsewhere

    15.3%
  4. scUM in the Big Whatever and the Holes elsewhere

    13.3%
  5. Both get spurned by the SEC and the Big Whatever

    55.1%
  1. ETGator

    ETGator Long-Time Gator Stuck In East Tennessee Moderator VIP Member

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    I think there's a point the conference waters itself down and games are more meaningless and so more unwatched. The TV folks know almost exactly the metrics. Who cares about Rutgers vs. Illinois except a small group of alums? Now what if there were 4-5 of those games? However, I can also see the other side of the coin . . . but TV ratings will govern in the end, IMO.
     
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  2. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

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    Yeah, I can live with that... I just can't live with FSU and Miami in the SEC. UNC has their upper people preferring the SEC over the BIG if the ACC falls apart and I would prefer UVA to come along with them if we do ever expand again... more so than any Florida school.

    Right now we need to settle into our new schedule and ride with the 16 teams we now have.
     
  3. reaves2alvarez

    reaves2alvarez Senior

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    I think you misread my post. I don’t want the Semis or the Canes in our conference. I was simply asking how it was decided about OU and UT, and did TAMU throw a fit or not. Think 1984 when the league took our championship and the vote was 6-4 to take it. Simple questions are all I have…

    “Wes Chandler was Percy Harvin before Percy Harvin was born.”
     
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  4. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

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    I would assume that it would be a majority vote. The only thing I do know is that a charter member of the SEC cannot be dismissed from the league by any vote, they have to resign willingly. Sewannee, Tulane, and Ga Tech already have.
     
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  5. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

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    They pretend to read
     
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  6. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

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    If they can’t stand the heat, it’s best to get out of the kitchen. There’s a few more that should exit.
     
  7. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

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    Tulane and Ga Tech were very short-sighted to exit. I seriously doubt any others would make that Millions of $$ mistake.
     
  8. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

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    That is absolutely correct. If your Vanderbilt and all you wanna do is collect a check but never compete for anything. What does that do for the conference? Do they help generate that paycheck? I think they are just dead weight
     
  9. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

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    Well...they're supposed to give each opposing Football team on their schedule a guaranteed W, but somehow we f'd that up last year :(

    They just hit the lotto and had the foresight to realize it because they haven't been competitive in Football very many years since they joined in 1933. They aren't too bad in the minor sports.
     
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  10. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

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    Tech left for two main reasons, one of which might feel a little familiar.

    1) They didn't want to go play the little SEC teams (Mississippi's) at their home field, they wanted them to come to Atlanta to Grant Field and play there where they argued that they and their opponent could make more money (DUMB in retrospect, huh?)
    2) They had serious issues with the shenanigans going on at Alabama like unlimited scholarships for football, academics (lack of), de-facto try-out camps, and seemingly condoned dirty play.

    In the end, what Tech did was to cut off its own nose to spite its face, which I hope is a lesson that UF took careful note of.
     
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  11. Distant Gator

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    Agree on both counts, but don't discount the Darwin Holt/ Chick Granning incident.
    One of the dirtiest plays ever, and Bama/ the Bear just shrugs his shoulders and says "So?"
    We wonder how a "good Christian man" like Bobby Bowden could let his teams be so dirty.
    Here it is folks...A story to sum it up.

    https://vault.si.com/vault/1962/11/26/a-rough-day-for-the-bear

    But after an exchange of compliments with Georgia Tech Coach Bobby Dodd, Bryant's affability was suddenly dampened by Dodd's offhand comment, "I believe that was the cleanest game I've ever seen. What do you think. Coach?" Bryant, looking down at his shoes, muttered, "Huh? Oh, yeah. It certainly was. But I didn't expect anything different."

    Most of the 53,000 spectators who jammed into the 52,000-seat stadium did. Last year an Alabama player, Darwin Holt, had smashed Georgia Tech's Chick Graning in the face with his left elbow and forearm, in an unnecessary block when an Alabama teammate signaled for a fair catch on a punt. After the catch, though possibly before the referee's whistle had sounded. Holt hit Graning, rising off his feet as he drove his arm up under the taller Tech player's face guard. Graning was helped off the field with injuries diagnosed later as 1) fracture of the alveolar process (facial bones), 2) five missing upper front teeth, 3) fracture of the nasal bone, 4) fracture of the right maxillary sinus and the sinus filled with blood, 5) fracture of the right zygomatic process (bone beneath the right eye), 6) cerebral concussion and 7) possible fracture of the base of the skull.
     
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  12. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

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    That was just one instance too.....and is what I was referring to by mentioning dirty play.

    It seems a little familiar too with what Lewis Cine did to Kyle Pitts in 2020 that might have cost the Gators a shot at the playoffs. Does anyone really think he didn't know he would be thrown out of that game for that blantantly dirty hit? Anyone here think that he might have received some instructions to take out our player that was literally unstoppable that day? Anyone here find it surprising that the HC was a former long time DC at Bama?
     
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  13. KronoGator

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    They tried to pull a similar one on Florida as well, they wanted the series to be Atlanta/Jacksonville, Graves (or it might of been Woodruff) told him it wasn't happening.
     
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  14. Distant Gator

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    We had a good dawg on here who swore up and down it wasn't intentional. And I liked the poster- but I think he was wrong.
    My evidence is quite strong...
    • Kirby Smart takes pride- to put it mildly- in his defense. Like Spurrier on offense, Smart takes it as a personal affront when his defense is getting torched.
    • 2nd- Smart hates hates hates hates the Gators. So take point #1 and triple it because it was the Gators making the vaunted UGA defense look silly. Oh- and he hated Mullen even more than Florida.
    • 3rd- Smart has a mean temper. Reference the unhinged "pep talk" from him at halftime of the UF/UGA game in 21. F this, F that. Over and over. He is a crazed lunatic.
    • 4th- Watch the game again- Pitts was just torching them. Making play after play as we lit up the scoreboard. We scored 38 points- IN ONE HALF!
    So put all that together- anyone who thinks Smart is "above it all" and "would never hurt another player" has stars in his eyes.
    He is a dirty cheating cussing dirty dawg who was getting his butt handed to him by his most hated rival and coach.
    If anyone thinks he didn't say something like "Go get that M-f mf mf Pitts- and I mean now" to Cine..well just take a look at how the UGA players drive to see how much care they have for others.
     
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  15. Wanne15

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    We have to put up with tge good ol boy network to survive but hell with the sec.
     
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  16. Gator_druid

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  17. KronoGator

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    Like the dig at fsu's cupcake ACC schedule

    “Of course their schedule was tough enough since they played us and Miami.”
     
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  18. 96Gatorcise

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