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Poll —Should biological men be able to participate in female sports?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by UFLawyer, Aug 16, 2023.

Should biological males be permitted to participate in competitive female sports?

  1. Yes

    3 vote(s)
    3.7%
  2. Yes if they have had hormone therapy

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  3. Yes if they have had gender reassignment surgery

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. No

    76 vote(s)
    93.8%
  1. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

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    HAHAHA. River is one of my favorite posters though and has a tough job as a moderator. I can always count on him for a big chuckle. As an aside and you may already know, but Canada is closer than we are. They have compelled speech law there. Just a matter of time. Enjoy our time left here. Pray for the kids..
     
  2. Gatorrick22

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    I agree, I mean... these people that saw the laws being changed during the 2020 election... letting third party voting mail boxes pop up all over big cities... nothing to see here! keeping the election day going on, for weeks, after the deadline had come and gone... nothing to see here, honest as the day is long? BS!!!!


    Just these two things along are a cheat... But we all know much more than that happened during the 2020. stolen elections.
     
  3. UFLawyer

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    Yep. if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck……
     
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  4. gatordavisl

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    You've claimed not to know any election deniers and here you are agreeing with one. As if they don't exist . . . :emoji_thinking:
     
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  5. GatorRade

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    I think we are again conflating two separate issues.

    1) I certainly agree that a system of government can only be sustained with at least some form of consent from the governed (or at least a fear that overrides their disapproval).

    2) However, I don’t think the populace’s position on any random empirical or philosophical claim is relevant to this issue. In the 50s, people thought butter was healthy. In the 70s, many preferred margarine. Today, butter is preferred again. In each case, “society” seems to have taken a clear position on a claim, and these positions are not all compatible. Therefore at least one of these societies must have believed a “lie” in your parlance, but neither a community belief in the superiority of butter nor of margarine is more the totalitarian position.
     
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  6. GatorRade

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    Again, we are back to the question of who determines what is a lie? Or as John Locke would keenly put it:

    For if the light, which every one thinks he has in his mind, which in this case is nothing but the strength of his own persuasion, be in evidence that it is from God, contrary opinions have the same title to inspirations. Then God will be not only the father of lights but of opposite and contradictory lights, leading men contrary ways; and contradictory propositions will be divine truths, if an ungrounded strength of assurance be an evidence that any proposition is a Divine Revelation.”
     
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  7. dangolegators

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    What is the difference between 'stolen' and 'not legitimate'?
     
  8. kurt_borglum

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    If men are from Mars and women are from Venus...


    Are all the other "genders" out of Uranus?
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    I think you're smart enough to understand, but they've trained you to lie to yourself and you'll keep on lying to yourself, because you're too afraid of being on the wrong "team". The preference for butter vs. margarine is not akin to the difference in biological sex between a male and female. Preferences in food......there's a ton of shades of gray. Biological sex......there's an x and a y. If you tell yourself you see two x's when you know in reality there's an x and a y, you're lying to yourself.
     
  10. okeechobee

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    Stop.
     
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  11. l_boy

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    What?

    Are you talking about actually counting, and recounting the votes?
     
  12. UFLawyer

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    Stolen means the winner was not crowned
    Not legitimate means the election process was corrupted
     
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  13. dangolegators

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    Ok, how was the election process corrupted?
     
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  14. UFLawyer

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    you are kidding me, right?
     
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  15. l_boy

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    Seems to me the headline here is 94% on a leftward leaning board don’t support biological males in women’s sports.

    The share of Democrats who support that is probably less than the share of Republicans who believe in some form of Q anon.
     
  16. l_boy

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    To say it was “corrupted” is vague. What does that even mean?

    Here is the question..was the election free and fair, and if it wasn’t, do you think that changed the outcome?
     
  17. UFLawyer

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    what do mean by free and fair? Free from what and fair to who?

    as for changing the outcome, I already answered that.
     
  18. l_boy

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    Not really but I understand why you can’t say it out loud - party loyalty and not wanting to be seen as a RINO etc etc.
     
  19. Gator715

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    Yeah, I think a lot of Republicans think the 2020 election was stolen. I think the 2020 system didn't inspire a lot of trust in the public and should not be repeated, but I don't think the 2020 election was stolen. The conspiracy required for that to have happened would have required far too great of a scale.

    That said, a lot of Democrats think not only the 2016 election was stolen, but the 2000 election was stolen.
     
  20. l_boy

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    kudos for being one of the few of your tribe to admit that.

    I don’t think “a lot” of democrats think 2016 was stolen. 2000, you may be right. At least with 2000 it was crazy close. By the rules of the election, GWB legit won, but it was pretty clear that given how voters intended to vote, but screwed up their ballots, Gore would have won.
     
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