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Polio/Vaccine Hesitancy?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by QGator2414, Jul 21, 2022.

  1. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    Have no clue. As I indicated. I see this as the beginning of a major problem created by the ridiculous rollout of the Covid shots where people were coerced to take a drug they did not want or need in many cases.
     
  2. QGator2414

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    Possibly.

    We are seeing the archaic drug fail.

    And we will see …but “original antigenic sin” sure seems ripe about now.
     
  3. QGator2414

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    About right when you have no response.
     
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  5. danmanne65

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    I did read the first two of your sources. I thought you were discounting my statements because of my hostility to all religions. This post proved it.
     
  6. QGator2414

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    We certainly disagree. A new drug and technology that is showing failure to stop spread as time goes and forcing healthy people who are not in real danger to take said drug is not only the antithesis of medicine. But how you destroy the trust in medicine.
     
  7. philnotfil

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    Children get the four doses of the polio vaccine at ages 2 months, 4 months, 6-18 months, and 4-6 years.

    How old was the person who contracted polio? How long ago should they have gotten their polio vaccine?
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    I have a Masters in Industrial Engineering. Married to a Dentist. We have worked our tails off to create a Dental Practice that goes above and beyond. Not just taking care of our patients Dental needs but taking a part in helping them with their overall health. Too many in healthcare get in their lane and never get out. We have been in the process of implementing Integrative Dental Medicine (closely tied to Integrative Medicine). We have a unique opportunity for our patients as a patient gets far more time with a dental professional than they typically do with a doctor in a year. Then you realize the bacteria and connections to inflammation in the body and there are so many things that we are able to provide when it comes to actual health care. Prevention is a far better approach than identify and treat.

    Right now we have a identify and treat approach to health care in this country. We need to “Shift” (phenomenal book we are reading about this subject) to a prevention approach. We can absolutely can make the shift. But it will take commitment from both the medical professionals and patients. And I believe we have a commitment to our patients and community to be a part of providing them more than they think when it comes to their dental care and health care for that matter.

    Needless to say. Drugs can be great and should not be discounted in one’s health. But there are so many other things that can be done to make one’s life better and healthier that do not always require medication.

    Short broad answer.

    And yes…I think fauci is terrible. I think there are cover ups all over the place with how Covid ended up out in the world along with his just tunnel vision on how to approach a public health crisis. He is not the only one. But he wanted the stage.
     
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  9. PerSeGator

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    This seems like a variation of the argument that democrats killed republicans by telling people to get the vaccine, because republicans would naturally do the opposite of anything democrats say to do.
     
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  10. QGator2414

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    There is no attack in what I wrote at all. It was my opinion of the situation. You can disagree with the opinion…
     
  11. QGator2414

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    We have a shot that has not worked for some time. Our quad shot president just got Covid. We are pushing it on young healthy kids and adults. Boosters and all for some. And coercing people to this day to take it. We just laid off 60K national guard personnel. That is not science. This is authoritarianism and a red flag. It is disgusting what the government continues to do to people trying to serve this country.

    I hope every one of those 60K get paid and then some by us the taxpayer for treating them like this. Those running for congress should have it on their platform that they will put forth a bill to pay these men and women who are being wronged for some ridiculous agenda.
     
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  12. QGator2414

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    Don’t know. Don’t know if they were vaccinated. But we do know the polio vaccine is highly effective for the disease. So if we see a decline in those taking it…that is not good.
     
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  13. BLING

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    Why should the government pay “and thensome” for folks who refuse to follow orders? The order was from over a year ago! They chose to not follow orders, which means they chose not to be a national guard soldier.

    Apparently 85% had no problem following orders. If nothing else, this sounds like an opportunity for the government to cut its budget and to weed out soldiers who have poor discipline or cannot be relied upon. Win-win.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    This is politics and authoritarianism and not about protecting those serving. If you cannot see that at this point. We just disagree.

    I think every person fired for not taking this shot shot be compensated and apologized to. It would be one thing if they did what they were sold as doing. There is so much wrong with how we handled this!
     
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  15. G8trGr8t

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    The shots have worked well to keep millions out of the hospital and likely 100's of thousands out of the morgue. Your inability to recognize that fact leads to serious questions about your reasoning abilities. That is the science that you refuse to acknowledge. Sad
     
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  16. Trickster

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    Sounds like a nice practice.
    We'll just have to disagree about Fauci. I do wish I knew what cover ups you're talking about. Maybe I'd agree with you if I knew something nefarious went on.
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    Omicron has relocated these shots meaningless for healthy people. Sad is you refuse to acknowledge this.
     
  18. philnotfil

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    The person who contracted polio is identified as an adult and unvaccinated. They have to be at least 18 years old. Which means they should have gotten their fourth polio shot at least 12 years ago. They got polio because the didn't get vaccinated a decade before covid. Could you walk us through the thinking that led to you blaming the pandemic response for this person not being vaccinated?
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    Time will tell. And I might be wrong. But I think fauci was fully aware of funding and gain of function. Then you throw in the fact he got into public health policy when he never should have. But the flags are there for me.
     
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    And again you got it wrong. I was discounting your comments because they are wrong. Religion has nothing to do with those Orthodox Jews who refuse vaccinations. I am discounting your comments because you are wrong as to why these people are not being vaccinated. And you can’t grasp this because your hostility toward religious people doesn’t allow you to grasp the reason. Just as those who got accuse of not grasping “reality” because of their religious beliefs, you are doing the same thing. Motivated by your bias against religious people, you have asserted the falsehood that religious fundamentalism is the reason these Orthodox Jews are not getting the vaccine. What is the word for attributing falsehoods to people based on their characteristics?