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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by wgbgator, Dec 7, 2023.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Maybe this will blow your mind, but Pearl Harbor is now further past in our current time than the shelling of Fort Sumter was the day Pearl Harbor was bombed.
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    The last known Civil War veteran to die was a drummer boy named Albert Woolson in 1956.
     
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  3. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    That is amazing. My dad joined right after Pearl Harbor. He said he was already in, maybe overseas, when he got his draft notice
     
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  4. GatorNorth

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    George Santos said that being at Pearl Harbor during the bombing was far more traumatic to him than when he was awakened by the shelling at Ft Sumter.
     
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  5. OklahomaGator

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    What percentage of high school graduates do you think would know why this date is significant?


    Edit: I don't know the answer, just asking the question.
     
  6. sierragator

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    pretty low, sadly
     
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  7. Gatorhead

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    Philadelphia
    Wasn't he from N Florida?
     
  8. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    No, he was born in NY and lived in Minnesota. Was with the Union army.

    Albert Woolson - Wikipedia
     
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  9. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    likely a very depressing number

    I remember a July 4 poll that showed how many don’t know who we declared our independence from
     
  10. Gatorhead

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    Come on ...... everybody knows Germany bombed Pearl Harbor on this day!
     
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  11. wgbgator

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    This makes me wonder what percentage of HS graduates in 1943 knew the year the Civil War started
     
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  12. GatorRade

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    Right here
    I also think pretty low. Here is some context for that:
    • Less than half of U.S. adults (47%) could name all three branches of government, down from 56% in 2021 and the first decline on this question since 2016.
    [​IMG]


    https://thehill.com/changing-americ...ll-three-branches-of-government-survey-finds/
     
  13. GatorNorth

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  14. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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  15. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Ultimately I think knowing why Pearl Harbor is significant is more important than knowing the date or year it happened. You can always look up dates. Rote memorization of context-less data isnt particularly useful or a sign of knowing anything IMO. Knowing how to apply, navigate and find useful information > memorizing facts.
     
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  16. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    don't disagree, but the likelihood of anyone knowing the hows or whys of Pearl Harbor without knowing the date is extremely unlikely. So let's start out with the date and go from there. There should be a certain amount of common knowledge that we all have. I'm not expecting it ...

    Of course, I think everyone ought to be able to name every state, etc .... Good luck with that.
     
  17. tampagtr

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    God Bless Mr. Woolson, but DO NOT mention a drummer boy in December.
     
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  18. tampagtr

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    Then again

    According to the Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig, Trump asked his then-chief of staff, John Kelly, "Hey, John, what's this all about? What's this a tour of?"

    Trump appeared not to grasp that this was a hallowed tribute to the more than 2,400 US service members and civilians who died in the 1941 assault, a devastating surprise attack that launched America into World War II. In November 2017, Trump visited the site for the first time and claimed he "read about, spoken about, heard about, studied [sic]."

    "And that is going to be very exciting for me," Trump added at the time.

    Authors Rucker and Leonnig write that although Trump "heard the phrase 'Pearl Harbor' and appeared to understand that he was visiting the scene of a historic battle ... he did not seem to know much else," The Post reported.


    'What's this a tour of?': Trump barely understood the significance of an iconic Pearl Harbor memorial during a private tour, new book says
     
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  19. wgbgator

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  20. tampagtr

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    Interesting!