Pandemic brought highest rates of teen homicide, young adult suicide since 2001

They decided they’d rather die than live under Trump’s presidency. Can’t blame ‘em.

 

My Monday Morning QB Threads

 

Come on. Let’s don’t derail the conversation immediately.

 

How the hell am I supposed to know your posting history with another poster on this board? Maybe shoot him a DM?

With regards to the pandemic - I think most people realized there was going to be collateral damage from shutting everything down. Given what we knew at the time it wad the right call and it would be same call made if it happened again tomorrow. I don't understand why you're so obsessed with this.

 

I guess in 2001 they couldnt handle that Bush did 9/11 too

 

WRONG. It only looks like an awful decision in hindsight. It was the prudent decision at the time and would be the same decision made today if faced with the same circumstances. Get over it.

 

These stories continue to speak volumes about how bad parenting has become in this country. Shameful that parents are so bad that being forced to deal with them every day has led to a huge increase in teen suicide.

 

95 should move to a country that didn't shut down for the pandemic. Good luck finding one.

 

Nobody expects you to know his full posting history. However, if you are going to claim it is Monday morning quarterbacking, it's reasonable for him to comment on his previous posts. However, there were certainly many people who brought up mental health concerns at the time. Even if you didn't remember his posts, I imagine you would remember that.

 

Agree and disagree.
I do think we did what we thought we should. I don't believe it would be handled the same. Especially when it comes to the younger among us.

I think a hybrid approach that protects the vulnerable while allowing the young and healthy to not have two years of their lives taken away at such an important age.

So I agree. We did what we felt was best early on, but i think we would have an evolved position in the future

 

That isn't it at all. Not even close.

 

Move to Sweden then. Overall, lockdowns and lower covid death rates are highly correlated. Now you're going to cherry-pick a few countries to 'prove' that you are right.

As for the CDC study, it shows that teenage suicide has been on the rise for the last 20 years. And homicides went up across the nation as a whole. That is typical of recessions and there would have been a recession in 2020 with or without official lockdowns.

 

You said there would be an increase in suicides in 2020. And bizarrely kept trying to bet me about it. I said that isn't how suicides work during traumatic events, as people tend to commit suicide during the adjustment period back to normal life (I.e., that they would increase in later periods but not initially). I provided the context of Katrina to show that.

Suicides decreased by 3% in 2020, contrary to your claims (a fact you still won't admit). So yeah, you are lying to cover for being wrong (again). Your ego simply can't handle how wrong you were. So here we are again, with you trying to BS yourself into reconstructing that ego. Good luck with that.

 

I have used my own kids as an anecdotal story previously. The issue with kids is perspective. The lack of perspective leads them to think things are more important than they are. My oldest daughter lost her Soph/Jr years of HS for the most part.
No proms, no football games, isolation from social groups. As a parent we try to teach perspective but it is very hard for them to grasp without the life experience we have as parents.

It was clear that she was deeply impacted. Thankfully she has a strong family and a strong life foundation and worked through it. Now take that same situation and place it on a kid that doesnt have safety nets and support structures and thus even less perspective.

If you have teen agers you saw it. Maybe not directly in your kids, but in someone elses.

 

Until the 2 weeks came and went, you are correct... then more restrictions appeared in several states. And it kept getting worse for nearly 2 years in some places.

I don't think most states and the feds handled it well with respect to the length of time involved. The incessant booster shots mandates that the military, companies/corporations and airlines required had NOTHING to do with health. So they failed on that level too. They failed on more levels than I want to mention.

Those lock-downs and restrictions... mandates negatively effected our young people more than anyone thought it would.